ITht cri~. r.a~s analysis arLO. :.~i.:.c. I L =NG Trt ut= OB~ ERVATION 11. BRIEF SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS c .ri t. i ci ::.rc:5 ,., I '(Pf CF Of\SERV"TION I G .. ouna-V .1.sual f'nY51CAL EVIDENC E aree . :::e-~oys sta tee t o rur. .,.way :':-om \.hEJ :.:FO ..-nc . ::. c;.ened ann &. little 2-2~ f t rr.~n c:>.:":e out. 3efnre \. .. ._ t c l ane and make fix frienus~. Prevlou edition o>f thl f o rtD CD)' b. ueed, pointed at the running boys. Befor e they l:r-m.: ,..,.hat happened, tl~ey '<:ere stand in[; rieht next to the "man It \Ta~ as if they \Jere in a trance. At this ti:ne they could not n:ove. The r:a..'1 sai.d, "I ,,ill not ha!Tl you. " P.c snapped his f lnger and the toy::; were out of t he trance. Johnny \-ias v ery scared. The man said, They all uent up the ladJer into the craft. They stated that the craft was about 6 fee t high and a little bigge r than a station vTagon car (about 2 feet overlapping the side of the car, but round ) . l:lhen they got inside there \T.:ls only about a foot head space for the boys. The entire wall around the i::1side of the craft \ra::; a gigantic conput~r ,,ith nany buttons and blinking lights. There were thre e more little people inside. The "litt,le peo_1le were atout 2 to 2t feet tall. They looked lL"<e hu.::an ooiues except for thelr size. They h3.d 2 antennas coming from their head and a "glass bubble" over their heads. They \Jere all vtearing "short 'rhey only had four f lnger s . They stated that there \.fere "3 boys and cr:e gir 1. They said tl.ey looked lL'!.ce s:u.all girls and toys. they entered tho L?O, the little :people i:xn.fed to the1p.. At this tbe t:1e litUo girl took Johnny and s howed hin 1:.!.-le col!lputer s . JohnP.y sta.-..a..;. t.a'tr no tihi:tg ..,ras naid bc~..,reen them. ':o:---:; ::rr.ayed with t~e !} t!>.ree lit .. 1o boys utlU taL--:ed. 'rha following even1:.s were told to me by Tony but are net. in the p~oper order since he kept o~ go g over and over these events constantly pu-cting in n:ore details. Tl~c l ittle '~-ovs fro'l'"l tte u~o ntat'3d. U at tre y ".:i::;':ed th9 Air Fo:-ce quit shooting dotm their space ships cecause they \Janted to land and ~a kc friend:J. Tony asked where they had co:te froM and they said, Cc..nta.ur l. Tony said that they told hir.l they "'ere going to the moon right tho mc.Jon in 15 ninutc!'.i anC. it only took 2 l:our3 to get to Alpha Centauri. The little boys f ron 'the UFO then eave Tony a r:J..y gun and pointed to an old abandoned station \.lagon outside of the d oo r . Tony aked and pulled tl:e trigger. The car disintegrated. They then \lent inside tO\..rard the computer buttons. They pointed to a button. Tony pushed it -the door shut and the "flying saucer rose off the ground. They couldn' t tell me .h.ow At this time Johnny was directed to get into a miniature model of the flying saucer vlhich stood in the roddle of the floor. lie said there \-Tore a lot of little con~rols on the panel. He sat in a szr.all "leather chair" but had to crouch 'viO.Y up to fit hinself in. Tha little girl pointed to a button but Tony rushed over and pulled Johnny out of the ta.rtiature craft, stating that something might go ng. (JoiDL~y said the craft was just big enough to fit one of the little peopl e . ) Tony said they had better go at this time. little people" wanted the two boys to take the ray fUil They refused. The "littl e people" t hen offered for then to take the "miniature flying ::;o:uce.t.' , b:1t the boys at,;ain refused. Tony a:;kcd them what he shm..:ld de wi 1,11 the p:,ctures te ~ad taken. T::er ::..J.:.d to shm-1 then to a lot rhe bl1ys 'Jtcod about tan f a e t fron the l..i?O as it raised its ladder, close d its door and started up. The boys ::;aid that a lot of heat came out of the holes and their shirts were being blown by the cotion of the craft. r.he 'L?C slv.tl' underneath the UFO to take "his last picturc. At this time a lot of fire crune from the sides of the UFO, where tho holes \-/ere, and it Hent at aoout a L~o5 decree angle into the clouds. It di!:lappca.red into the clouds in about Tho boys r a n up the road and entered tr.o tavern where Johnny' s father was. Tony was very excited. Jo.b.nny \tan n:ore neared.. Of course, noccdy \.fould believe them out the boys said they h:::~.d pictures o f it. They then \.font to the S f:. C Grocery Store to tell Tony s nothar . She didn t believe ther:1 either. Tony' s father came in a little latter , and did not believe their sto r"J. The boys told ?:r. t they t~d pictures of it. That evening the boys went t o grandmothers home across the street. A n e i ghbor, 1-:rs ..ras also there. The boys told t heir \mmen and they taL'l(ed a l ong time about the incident. called a Ers and told h e r about it. The boys taJJ<.ed to l:Z.s. Barnes on the phone and \-Tare tol d that she had had contact with the Venetians and had 1nany books and tape recordings by experts in the field and eve n some ftom the Venetians. 1 :r ve them a picture postcard \oTith a pict.urc of a flying saucer o n it. The boys showed it to me and s a i d the UFO strongly resembled the one they had seen. On Friday , 2 June, dr the roll of fib!. into Tyle r Store i n GrasG Valle:l for de.reloping. The p roprietors said they could be pic:~c.l t:.;:; :;n t :Onda.y . Or. : .f.o. !day, 5 J ::...'le, -O t. .-. i .r. -:d :'cr.7 ,..rent into Crass Valle y to As sc.;.n a;, they rece:.-, t: . .Jm t!:ey opehed the envelope and lcokcd a t the pictures. Only three haj turned out (been printed). Tony was e>:ci"t.ed. His father c ould do nothing else out believe hi.m,e' at this point the t..or c he believed t hem. i.0'1 C:: The boys t old ma."ly peopl e about their experience and sho\>red the T :i Ct'.t1'(.''i :-tronnd. !"n.ny pco,le t.h~ stnrtec} to Cl.'l:im that t.hey hat! aJ.~O :;oen c o n .. uct \.Jith pcu;->le from outJr sp.:1ce in the past. They had all been afraid to report tho sightings bccau~e of Hhat people might think. is concluded the story to this point. JohP~y and Tony both left :or school after the intervie\.r. I talked wit h the father . He said that he did not believe the boys at first, but he had to believ e the~ after he sau the picjiure s . I asked if I could see the negatives. He shoiTed them to me. Besides the negatives of the three picjrures '1-thich Here printed, ther e was also another which seemed to show the UFO hove ring above a sts.tion "'agon autonobilc. I as~eci if I could take the negative~ \.Jith me for investigation negatives up but would give c1e tLe pictures. He had promised his son that would do this. I left at this time and traveled into Nevada City, about 17 miles South of San Juan. I went to tho School's Picnic Area and contacted Tony' s teacher. He l:!.. ves e. t l!evada City, Calif 95959 , phone - 'i'h<1 t;3acl.or Huld that there t.Jas much talk in sc1~.ool about UFO s . The boys to2.:! ~i:eir :Jto.ry to ni.o e n !''rid -Y, 2 June. Ttu:; _;::.Owaci hi.T'!l the pictures on T~e teacher replied, upsiae-do\.;n c:.::tJ o n an upside-C.mm saucer. Ee lauehed. Tony told hin \.!hat it uas. The taacher questioned him extensively stating , I used all the psychology I .Y.ner,r to get it out of t heiJ but they told the same story as they He lool:ed at both l:oy s school records. Tony is an average student \.Jith a DI.). of 94. He is above average i n Scie nce , 1.Jith a B nvcraLe Johnny is ju::;t an avorv'o studt:nt, not e;~cellinr; ln anythinrr. The teacl.c r said t ho.t Johnny been ~mc,m to dr llli: quite a bit. P.e further st:J.tcd that Tony h.:1d been a good stucicnt in Sclcnce, ahmys bringine; in project:; or itc.::!s of interes t . " said tr.at Tony has been outwardly int~rested in U/0 affairs fer about the past three oontgs and his last ooo~ report wa s on a Loo C.caling uith UFO Nr . Brizzolar a at thi s point didn' t kno\J what to believe. Defore I left I sa\-T Tony and asked if h e would reconsidor giving me the n e gatives. Afte r I pointed out the ioportance of having them, he said yes. 1!01'::!:: rony Has not very i nterested i n talking at this time. ALSO HO'l'E: Tony did not reveal to the t e .:lcher that he had had contact Hith the people in the UFO and had actually talked to them I callecl 1 J-s. tb~t evening and told her that I would be up by 0930 the next ~ornine, Saturday, 10 June and requested that she have the coys :ere. She said, I left the n ext morning a'oou t 0800 hrs a..l'ld a rrived in !J. San Juan al:.ou t I took a base photographer with me t o snap conparison pictures at the scene. He a rrived at the Grocery St o r e , but the ooys we r e no t ther e 'rhey h:..t.cl c;one into G:::-ass Valley tTi th l J- . hnny' s father, and we r e eX!Ject~d tac k a.t ony time . :.Je ,,,alted fo1 over ar. l'1our e.nd then decided to :-:e ..;ent dO\m and t'jO.f. oict,...res at the scene. (See expl:1ns.t~ons attached to picture:;. ) ~.!c '...'e~t baci{ to the stor e about 1100 r.rs and the ooys still were no t back. Both 1!r. and !:rs ther e . They both expressed the desir e coopcr:J.tion . I;OTE: The boys said thajl the UFO had made a round imprint in the t;round \The~ee i t landed. The father said \.Then he vTcnt up there you could see it fainLl, . see an inprint. Tony stated that a c round/oarth r..over had teen over the area and the tracl~s uere visible to me. Ec further stated t hat ra:1ny of the area boys and girls had been down there playinr,. ALSO HOTE: Hhen we were leaving the ocene of the UFO landing, I told the boys that they could reveal any or all of th~ above iPormation to anyone they chose. I pointed out the disagvantages of revealing all of the information. They stated they did not want to tell it all. The boy then said, Do \.fe get any money for this'? I failed to respond . At 1100 hrs on Saturday norning abo.in, the (;oys still had not returned. Ue decided to intervie\.J some of the area people. He firs t went to the tome of l1rs louise E. Clark, Box 85, N. San J uan . Eer hotne Has the closest structure to the scene, about 400 yards. A small hill and many tree s concealed the landing sight from her ho~e. She stated that she had been in Graso Valley Lhat day and did not see anything beco.us~ of her absence. She further stated that if it came back she would call us. She is a very old WOI!lO.n ( estimate late 70's). She was in the process of moving but co n:;enned to taDc ,ri 't.h us. She con.r.'irmed her talks with the boyo on th3 e'.r"'n ing of 1 J 1.!.!10. !lhg o.lso stated th..:. t sne had called l!rs. r.e..d had ''ma::.:r contacts ui -::: ?eop:.e from outer space - "the Vene tlan:~. She said that she was very ;o.'J.ch a believer in life on other planetz d believeci in flying saucers. She s~id she had not seen then as such but knows personally, many people \>rho have seen them and had contact wanted to sec in the Eible where it stated there was flyi ng saucers. She sai d ohe had many books written by a >achael X. (a nystic authormt y on flying saucer:;) . She said they were all packed O.\ray. She f urther stated that she seen :Jtrange lights ma!1y t in:es during the nieht . Lr.; . Roden bereer stated that i :rs ....._ could ce contacted in Tyler and could give us much infonnation, including books and recorded tap~s left by the Venetians. :. San Juan was in the residence visitine at the time . (It may be noted that she was laughing quietly all through this intervievt. ) She said that ohe had been in Crocery Store and sai.J the coy '1-ti th a book about UFO s . She asked him vi here he had got ten it f rom and that she '\.Jould like to read it. Tony told her that he had gotten f rom a boy at school, but he ~ould not give it to her. She further stated that the parents vrere resentful for oskine quu::; tion::;. She apologized and left .-Je went to home :i~. 3an Juan, the gran:i:r.other of Tony. She \JOUld not ansvler any questicns put to her . ~-/c a::; ked .b.er if she had a look by Hichael X. She said she had lunt it out , but \lould not r eveal the name of the bor rower . Asked if she believed in flying saucers, she responded, " Of course, didn' t you see the pictures? " ?he :-;(J'S had still not :;:-et:.:.rned to the stor e . \le vrent to Tyler, a little ,;:!,l:'..c.iia o:~t. 5 r.1ilcs southu:.'.3t of H. San Juan :e contact 3he was in ~c~ l~te 70' s , e stimate. She va~ excite~ a:O us teing there. She shO\.Jed us all her books -de:aling with flying s<:!.t:.ccrs cystic pm.Jers and relie;ion. iior ho uoe was filled "''i th I:':..:lny religious pictures, etc. She said that she '\.faG a member of a group knO\m as the Understanding Group which wa s been a r.1omber of tl:c club since itJ formation and cad gone to every meeting. tuted that had euest lecturers and nany tapes \.sere played, stated to r~-\-; br-!' n loft by tho Vc netia.nc;. Sh.c httd ma"".: r...ooldcto djs~ributed by u on ot!or ~lanets anJ I!lj'stical po\tcrs. sr.c !..i:iid that she usc to hold ncetings W'! S'ITUIIF r Ulti.Wa ?lllr'.....a :!I'll US 3&2111 I in tLc area t.;hich uere attended oy approx. 6 people, including She had also cone into !!evada City a::1d Grass Valley to guest lecture, but because of lack of attendo.~ce and interest, gave that up. She gave many desc~iptions of the people and crafts, explaL~ing that they were very versatile and could do aL~st an hing, including speaking any language. She said there v1as a meeting every year a t Giant Rock, Calif, the scene on many UFO sightings and contacts with Venetians. She told t~,oro stories of note. About the tapes, she said at one meet~ng there \.ras a sealed tape on a table and that the following day there would be a recording on it. (This happened at one of the mestings and was demonstrated by a guest lecturer. ) next day the carton wa s still sealed and when they opened it and played it, there w1.s a complete recording by the Venetians. l!hen asked if she had ever seen a flyine saucer, she replied, 0h yes. " About 0400 one I:lOrning she could not sleop "for some reason unknown to her. " She got up and went outside and tihere -..m::: a very beautiful, clea r sky. She said to herself "If I could only see a flying saucer" and just like that "a big silver space ship appeared for about 5 seconds an'.! then disappee.:-~d intc the sky. asked he" lf wo coulC. see her tapes, she sta:e:. 't.ecause of lack of use, she had c:.i.ven t:1<lm t o he::-son Santa P.osa, Calif. He used them and ~i.re3