A703 580 1 1 Part 1 645649

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FILE No Part No DEPJ.\9TMENT OF DEFENCE This cover is to be used only for official file series recorded with Australian Archives, Fom1 Number AR 111 is to be used for working papers. REPORTS OR FLYING SAUCERS AND OTHER AERIAL OBJECTS. Folio Aoferrod to Folio Referred to INSTRUCTIONS ON THE PROCEDURES TO BE FOLLOWED IN THE FILING OF COR RES. PONDENCE AND THE HANDLING OF FILES ARE CONTAINED IN DEPARTMENTAL AND SINGLE SERVICE MANUALS File Number CLOSELY RELATED FILES Department ol Oelence (AIR FORCE OFFICE) MINUTE PAPER SubJ. RECLASSIFICATION OF FILES DEFAIR 580/1/1 RelerencrAF554/ 1 /30 ( 34) Reference: A. DI(AF)AAP 810 para 326. In accordance with Reference A, all folios, in all parts of Department of Air File series 580/1/1 are reclassified 'UNCLASSIFIED' with effect 7 May 82. . A. PERSKE) THIS IMAGE IS REPRODUCED FROM A DAMAGED PAGE WITH A PORTION OF THE INFORMATION MISSING. NOT ~1:ovr. THJ.3 <JHF.ET FRO<! Fim T!O ~fct"'IE PAPrRR ARE TO i1E AT':'ACHED TO THIS FI!E Tol"""""'ie Add!o11 ' AVlAT, llliLDOUANE" FOR INDEXING COMMON'NEAI.TH OF' AUSTRAI.IA DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION "HENTY HOUSE.'' 499 LITTLE COLLIN S STREET. OOK t.le Ot P.o IIU~I!Tk snut1tT. MELBOURNE. C.l MltL.DOURHll. C I 5th September, 1958 MBf'ORANDUM for: The Secretary, Department of Air, Victoria Barracks, MELBOURNE. UNUSUAL AERIAL PHEimMEHA I am forwarding for your information a copy of a report of the sighting of unusual aerial phenomena by !~r. A.Io,. Wishart, at \'looroloo, on 19th August, 1958. (R. G. ~exander) Assistant Public Relations Officer Officer in Charge, Department of Civil Aviation, PERTH. lY. A. Bailey Road, 19th August, 1956 Having noticed an object in the sky this All, which I could not identiry I am writing or it in case some-one else saw it. At 10 past 10 a.m. I had been watching Vampite Jets and although there was a Jet noise but faint in the air I glanced up in the hopes of spotting it, I anw what I f'irst thought was a whitish object like a table tennis ball, several hundred feet up moving rapidly. I fu~ly expected it to disappear behind the trees on the edge of the clearing where I was standing but it didn' t , it just faded in the sky as the distance got too great and it was then that I realized it was at a terrific height but the speed it tr~velled has prompted me to write this. I would say it had the speed of 3 times the jets, that is a rough estimate I know, but having watched them flying and diving there is at least time to call anyone to have a look, with this there wasn' t . The direction it ~lew was to West. I have given it a lot of thought as to whether it could have been a Vampire or same accountable reason but it was almost directly overhead to start ldth and the shape didn t appear to change at any time while it was visible. Yours .faithfully, Signed: (;. F . Wishart) THIS IMAGE IS REPRODUCED FROM A DAMAGED PAGE WITH A PORTION OF THE INFORMATION MISSING. 'ltUPHONE: IN R 'LEASE QUOTe Department ot A1 r Victoria Banaoka llEIB OURNE, VIC, COMMONWEALTH OF AUJs:rtAUA ~/V dfr yv-;(l J ROYAL AUSTAAUAN AIR FORCE #f/1" ..-'("'~.J-Headquartere, Hoae Command .> J Penr1 th I , w. New South alee I3th Ka-y I958 REPORT ON AERIAL SIGHTlllG Attached ia a report obtained :from l!ra, C.MaoDonald,5 Neville St, Oatley,New South Wales by the Asaiatant Provost Marahal, Sydney, (P,G.KETZLER) Wing Commander :for Air Of:fioer Commanding Assistant Provost Marshal OF AUSTRALIA ROYAL AUSTRALIAN AIR FORCE All870 Sgt. Quinn N. W. R.~A.~ Provost Service Field Security Section REPORT ON AERIAL 0 BJECT OBSERVED 1. On Thursday 8th May, 1958 in company with A216306 Sgt. Sheppard, E. P. , of this Section, I interviewed Mrs. Constance MacDonald, Housewife, at her place of residence No. 5 Neville Street, Oatley, ~ew South Wales, in reference to the sighting, by herself, of an unidentified flying object on the morning of 25th March, 1958 . When questioned regarding the sighting or the objeet Mre. MacDonald stated that she first sighted the object at 02eo hours on 25th March, 1958. The object was in eight tor about (3) three minutes, at t1ret it appeared to be directly overhead in the vicinity of the milky way, where it remained tor a very short period, then it dropped tqward the horizon travelling in a North to South direction. tt was travelling slowly at first and then inorea8td to a great rate or speed. 3. In the course ot the interview rs. NacDonald spoke in a very excited manner and conetantley repeated herself as to the object being a glorious spectacle of a heavenly body Ln the milky way. Throughout the interview Mrs. MacDonald would return to this manner or speech always extolling the lrtue or the glorious eight she had seen. At the conclusion ot the interview Mrs. ~acDonald inrormed the investigators that abe had toraeen their visit, aa she had read in her eacup that the Kings Heralds were coming to see her. 4. It 1e considered by the investlsators that the object sighted by thie woman could have been a falling star. ( NOEL W. QUINN) REPORT ON AE..1IAL OJJ~r OBS~"'l '::D 4 . Date cind Tine of observdtion (Ti~e given in 24 hour clock zonal timo ) 6 . ;;.,..nner of observc.o.tion: (Give det.J.ils of o n position by mp r rferenc e if possible, or by kno\m landnu.rKs, ..... nd describo c:Lny equipnent uso1 in the observ_tion) ore s obj~ct first observ~d, behind a hill, o ver th~ horizon, ov orhe ..... d , conin:. froo B. \l11c:1t first attr<;4ct~d observe r ' s c:Lttcntion, c . 6 .li..;ht o r noise 9. Did obj1ct c~.ppe~r ~s d light or as a definite obj9ct 10 . If th'3rc \!.. ... s r1ore th...t.n o n n obj,ct, hou r.a.ny Her e the r e , c:Lnd \lh.... t 'Ho.l3 their forr~ tion 11. ',Jh.,.t :C4s the colour of tho lic;ht o r objnct l!&o~t\ .~1}~1'}\l'Ja .Y.~J..~q~ 13 . W""'s o.ny d ct...:.il of structure observablo .liq .. o Steadv at firat then verY taat 18. State any :JXporiencc ilhich enable s obsorvnr to be rec.~.sonc:Lbly c ort .... in -bout th~ a.nsHers civf!n to 16 ""'nd 17. :K.~ Sincn it is nornally ir~. ossiblo to o s tind. t e the hai~ht u.nd spead of a str ..... n~e object it .. ill usu""lly be bettor to rmde ... vour to d c t Jr ino the .:.~.nGlc of c l ev .... tion of tho object, the .mcle routJl 11hich it novcd, .;~.nd tho tina t-!tcn to do this. 'IIIIIIP...._.-.c:n ,egriu~.19ct o .....!s.on.t.9-~l conpctss of flight \tith r eft)r ence to kndno.rks or points of the 20. Did tho object r cnc::~.in on c1 str a.i&ht pctth, deviate or canoouvr e Lontz brilliant tail 22. Vfuere did obj ect disappoc::~.r, e . g . in oid-air, behind a hill, the horizon 23.. Existence of any physicc;..l evidence such a.s f r ut;nonts, photo- aphs, or other supporting evidence. 24. .veather conditions experienced at tin'J(s) or obsorvd.tion(s) 25.. Loco. tion of e~.ny air tr .... ffic in tho vicinity at tho tio'3 of District is in circuit area or mascot aerodrome 26. Loc..Ltion of o.ny notP,orolobicul st .... tions in tho goner"'"l drc<-4 Any addition~l infornution Qustions 25, 26 c1nd 27 to be a.ns\ler ed by interroyc:~.tor. THIS IMAGE IS REPRODUCED FROM A DAMAGED PAGE WITH A PORTION OF THE INFORMATION MISSING. TfLEPHONEB22II IN R~or v PLEASE QUOTE Department of Air Victoria Barracks JAEIBOURNE, VIC. CONF'aliarl'fAL . t 4-1'~ >P!/tjJof2v)~A~LIAN AIR FORCE Headquarter, Home Command Penrith I .w. New South Walee 16th April 1958 REPORT ON AERIAL SIGHTING Attached ie a report obtained from a Hr, R. V.Gaiat,33 Beach Road, Hill, Sydney by the Assistant Provost Marshall, Sydney, , G .HETZI.Jm) ing Comz:1ander tor Air Officer Commanding THIS IMAGE IS REPRODUCED FROM A DAMAGED PAGE WITH A PORTION OF THE INFORMATION MISSING. COMMONYEALTH OF Assistant Provost arahal RuYAL AUSTRALIAN AIR FORCE A216306 Sgt. Sheppard E. D. R. A. A. F. Provost Service Pteld Security Section 11th April 1958 R&PORT ON AERIAL OBJECT OBSERVED 1. On , ednesday 9th April 1958, accompanied by A25298 F. Sgt. NEAL, . J. or this Section, I interviewed ~r. R. V. GAIST at hie home, 33 Beach Road, Dulwlch Hill, in rerereoce to hie sighting of 80 uoideot1t1ed flying obJect to the Northbridge, Caetlecrag area, on the morning or 6th April 1958. llr. Geist, 80 Ass latent Televt.si.oo Proaucer at A. B. N. S~udi.o, s~. Leonarda. He appears to be e ~ery level-headed mao end not.ooe who would imagine things. He stated the~ he has sighted unidentified objects betore, particularly one in August 1957. However this is the first time he has reported e sighting. (Our 20/98/AIR dated 7th August 1957, refers to e sighting report on t.he 2nd August 1957, by Mr. G. VINEY and J.ass H. .IHITE or Metre ville. ) 3. Nhen questioned regarding the position of the object, Mr. Geist said he first sighted it at 0300 hours travelling slowly in en easterly direction rrom hie position at Ceetlecreg. Vhi.let proceeding to hie home by car, Wr. Geist said the object wee continually sighted end wee still evident at 0410 hours on the same dey. 4. Mr. W. TULLOCH, Public Relatione Ot.ficer for .De-Havilland Aircraft Co., Benkstown, who was with Mr. Geist at the time of sighting, agreed with the latter's statement as to the movement end elevation of the object but claimed that it was star shape end not cigar shape as previously stated by Mr. Geist. 5. The ~esther Bureau was contacted end rrom the information received it appears th~t the object sighted wee not connected with the operations of this Department. llJPt L ON' J...:JRI.~L OI J.LCl' 03SERV D Jate and Time -:>f oboerveti-:>n (rime giv n in 24 h:mr clock zonal Manner Olf' o'Jserveti ':>O: (Give d e ils ot o'fm posit i o n by r.wp refl'lrence Lf p::>ssible, or by !.:n?wn L 1ndmflrks, a nd describe any equtpnent used tn the observf ~ion) 7. .ihera \IS& objec L first observed, e . overhead, coming from behind s hill, ~ver the horizon, etc. B. ./hat first ai;ti'ClCIIed observer' s a~tentio;>n, e . g. light o r n':>ise. 9. Did object appeflr as e l ight J r f\S a deftn i ;e objec t . 10 . If there was moi"e liha n one o b ject, h ow many were there, a nd what was ~heir ormation. 11, '.Vhat WPS the 1 2. 1/hf't wr s its ~#clt"r 'c, rfie ' 13. \/Cis any de t f i 1 of a true ture observable ~. :' . 1 \/es ~ny method or propulsion obvious ~: Steote any experience which enAbles obserVl.il' t o be reasonably ccrtL in about the answers give n to 16 a nd 17. Since i c; is no;>rnvlly L.possible to estlmalie the height find speed of a strange object it will usually b o better to e ndeavou1 to determine the angle of el~vntion of tho object, t he angl o through which 1 -c moved, a nd vh13 time tukan .. o do this. F~uort on aerial obJ~ct obs~rved (cont. ) 1 3. Diruction of fllght wi vh re!'~-enco t? l and Elrks or points 'J.f t;he Did ~he o':>jec t re~ain on a s;rbight path, devtate o r manoeuvre 'i~s a ny tr.-11 or exht:~ust, VE>p'Jur or light 11' n - \/here did objec~.~ d isappecr, ovor the horl~?n. in 11lid-atr, behind a hill, 23. f.xis";l)nce oi' EOJ physicrl 0\-:o .. nce such as .1'l'agmento, photogreph , or ?ther suDporGing evidenc e . 'I/ eo liher c?nd i .. 1 JUS exl)eriencc: ~ at time (a) or obscrvat ion (a) Locatio n of f1ny .... i r tre.ffic in t llu vicini 1.y fl G thd 'time of sigh t.ing oct:~tion or EIOY meteorologic .. stat.ions in liho gencr"l flPZ u~stions 25, 26 a nd 27 to be a nswwred by interrogator .