1. 0~ TE TIME GROUP 2. LOCATION 10. CONCLUSION ._--------------fAll charact-Jristics :i.r lic:.:.t.0 '1.."1 a/c 0oacrvntion. 4. NUM3ER OF OBJECTS o./c. 3i.;htin rcg::.rded D.s <.1!1 C~./c ob3ervatior:. C2.US ;.j \;y O.n S. LENGTH OF OBSERVATION 3 !:lnut. es 6. TYPE OF OBSERVATION 8 . PHOTOS 9. PHYSICAL EVID~NCI! 11. BAI!, SU~AAY AND ANALYSIS A KC-135 l:c-s :_.,_3tuound L'O.l Sc:li !..l:i.1 ~ on ~ rcfu -:.ii.n:; :.:i3icr in po::;s:i.i:.io:1 o; t.I-Ic o'vs..:r vo..,ion f1n ti1~ ~-33 o.ircraft . HEADQUARTERS 3560TH PILOT TRAINING WI 'G (ATC) UNITED STATES AIR FO~CE Webb Air Fore. Bate, Te-.o ATTN OF: AB-PLANS 4 Narch 1965 SUBJECT: UFO Investigation TO : AFSC (FI'D) \-~right-Patterson AFB, Ohio 45433 1. In accordance vrith paragraph 13b, A.FR 200- 2 and based on a UFO report submitted by Captain Brown and Lt Marsden (Attachment 1) the follmving data and information is fonrarded. a . Captain Bro1m is a T-38 Instructor Pilot, age 28, and holds a B . A . Degree. His occupation involves both observation and technical knowledge. Further, Captain Brown has 2, 200 hours of flying time; 1 , 500 hours of \-Thich was flmm in the \-lebb AFB area. Lt ~larsden is a student pilot, age 24, and holds a B . B .A. Deeree. Observation ani techn.ical kn011ledge are involve d in his tro.ining. Lt Marsden bas over 200 hours of f.Lying time and all 200 hou.cs were flo1m at Webb AFB, Texas. The ~asic description of the object ei ven by the t'\-10 officers was a bright blj.nkin3 \vhite light, round in shape. This object ,.,as approximately tlle size of a dime held at anne length. Only one object was reported by the observers; therefore, no formation was noted. '.rhure were no other pertinent features deacribed by Lt Marsden o.nd Captai.n B-:-mm in their report. 3 . The object 1.ra.s fi13t noticed by Lt r-Iarsden \-Tho immediately cal.Leu C<lpto.ln Dro.m.'.., attention to it. Both pilots agree on the locatLo.::1 0.'1d course of Lhe object which is as follor,.,s : a.. The object was seen at ll o 'clock (relative position) and at an o.ngle of 10 elevation relative to the position of tbe aircraft which '"as approximately 42 NM southeast of \>Tebb AFB. The object \vas on an east to west course uhich appeared to b e north of Hebb. b . \-The n the light 1-1as first noted, it was stationary and a dlr~ction at a high r ate of speed. The lleht diminish~d as the plaoe tur.ucd toward it and was out of s ight in 3 to 4 seconds. The total length of time tho.t t lJe l i.~ht was vi.sible was not more Lhan three minutes. 4 . The manner of observation \vas air-visual. Both observers were in a T-38 aircraft {Serial No. 610818) at an altitude of 22,500 feet . heading vas northerly from San Angelo ( 70Nr~ southeast of Big Spring) . speed of the aircraft at the time of the sighting was .8 mach and during pursuit of the object, speed increased to . 95 mach. date and time of the sighting vTas 0120Z, 25 February 1965 and the lighting condition at this time was described as night. following is personal data on the observers. Captain Brown, Wilber 356lst Pilot Training Squadron 356lst Pilot Training Wing 2/Lt Marsden, John R. 356lst Student Squadron 356lst Pilot Training vTing c . Both pilots are considered to be reliable. 7. Both pilots repcrted the sky was hazy up to about 14,000 feet; above 15,000 feet the sky \vas clear and visibility unlimited. At 22, 500 feet the observers visibility was unimpaired (i. e . no thunder storms, unlirniLed ceiling, etc. ) weather bureau' s report or weather at the time was clear, ,.,lth upper wiad information as follows: 8 . Checking possible failed to identify it sources and/or causes of the reported phenomena as emanating from known aircraft traffic. local civilian authorities were contacted, but there was no reported aircraft traffi~ in the area o~ th~ siqhtin~ at 0120~, b . The TFX Test Center at Fort vTorth reportetl there \vere no tests or unuoual aircraft flying at the time of the tiigbting. c . An interview vras held with the Chief Observer at the Sweet- "'vater Air Force Station but he had neither heard of the reported. object nor had any such object been seen on the radar equipment. This Air Force Station contacted other neighborlng GCI units and it' s Head- quarters in Oklahoma City. There was no unusual activity logged by any of these organjzations. d . Civil and :federal vreather stations throughout the area reported there were no weather balloons aloft at the time of the sighting. 9. No explanation can be given concerning this UFO on the basis of information received during the course of the investigation. Attachment 1 is the report submitted by the two observers. FOR Tl:1E COMMANDER UFO Observers Statement On the night of 24 February 1965, Captain Brown a.."l.d myself took off on a night transition mission from 'llebb AFB, Big Spring, Texas in a T-38 basic trainer, at 1900 hours. We climbed to 22,500 feet and proceeded to San Angelo, Texas, then turned north to Colorado City, Texas. Our position relative to ~febb AFB ,.,as approximately 42 NN southeast. At approximately 1920 hours at an altitude of 22,500 feet, traveling at approximately . 8 Hach, I sighted a round, white light at the ll O'clock position at an angle of approximately 10 degrees elevation. The object radiated a white light of high intensity and appeared to be about the size of a dime. It was traveling on an east-to-west course and appeared north of \vebb AFB. I called the light to Captain Brmm' s attention and as we watchod it, it blin.'<ed on and off approximately 3 times . Each time it b]inked o.ff, the l.:.ght was out for approxi..mately 4 or 5 seconds and at that time no obj~c~ could be s een in that position. We turned our aircraft and headed tm-rard it accelerating to Rppro.x:i.w.ately . 95 Hach. The position of the object in relation to us r emained constant for l or 2 seconds. Then the object accelerated off at a very high rate of speed on a north-lofesterly directicn. It gradually diminished in intensity and \ras completely out of sight i n approxi.mat~ly 3 or 4 seconds. No discern- iblo featuros could be observed of object 3 other than the inte~se \Thite light.. Total time of observation from fj rst sightin g until it. ltl\RSDEN, A03130844,2nd Lt, riTLBUU R. 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