PROJECT 10073 RECORD CARD 2. L OCATION 12. CONCLUSIONS Was Bolloo" Ft. Picrcez Florida & Vicinit~ 0 Probably Balloon 0 Possibly Bolloon DATETIME GROUP TYPE OF OBSERVATION 1:1 Grou.,d VI suol ~ GroundRador 0 Was Aircraft 0 P robobl y Aorcroft to Q!f:1QZ a Ai~Vi.wol 0 Al r lntercepl Radar Possibly AI rcroft Wo s Astranomi col Probably Astronomical Civilian and Milit:l!:l: 0 Panibly Astronomical Other_a.ic. ] i ~ts 7. L E NGTH OF OBSERVATION 8. HUMBER OF OBJECTS 9. COURSE c Insufficient Oato for Evoluallan BRIE~ SUMMARY 01' SIGHTING ,.Jhite COMMENTS SeVPr~l 'Jitnesses r eported ti.~es magnitude of brighte.3t .-tars strange lig.~t :lot dil'fcr ent ap"'eo.rec! i n we,:;t ern .... . Appeared over u period of :;~ve~l days. Inve.it ig:~.~ \o"ith 0. cyclic v~rying intensity. ing o!'fif'cr at .P'ltri-:L: .-~.nl ... ub~Pquently ligh~ reported fby '" itn.:! d.::finitely jet o.i~liner. Sub..;equen-; ~cc~iveu fro~ the Fft~ reveal~ t!'l:lt :l r>: different u::tti-collL,ion l.:.g! i n.:;tallcd en civil a/c for ~>cri"!ent JAU'pC..>es. Ch.:lract~ri.stics a r c :..n::le as reported by witnesses report establioJh~d tha:; objt ATJC I'ORM JlQ (RKV lll lUtP 5l) NNNNCZCSQG528ZCJYB397 PP RJEDSQ /' DE RJESNO 79 1 FM AFMTC PATRICK AFB F TO RJWFAL/ADC ENT AfB COL~ RJESKB/32AIRDIV DOBBINS AFB GA RJEDSQ/ATIC WPAFB OHIO ~ RJEZHQ/HO USAF WASH DC EZHQ/OSAF WASH DC UNCLAS MT~-31-3-5. FOR HQ USAF CAFCIN>, FOR OSAF CSAFIS>. REFERENCE UNCLASS- FIED MESSAGES AFMTC, MTW-29-3-2, MTW-~-3-3, MTW-30-3-4. UFO. INVESTIGATION OF UFO REPORTS LISTED ABOVE WAS MADE BY LT COLONEL JAMES o. PAYN2, DCS/INTELLIGENCE, AFMTC, IN A B- 57 AIRCRAFT BE'NEEN 0340Z AND 030aZ, 3 1 MARCH 61. THIS fLIGHT fLE~ IN THE VICINITY Of fT PIERCE, FLA. AT APPROXIMATELY 25,0~0 FEET AND WAS CONSTANTLY UNDER THE RADAR SURVEILANCE OF THE 679 AC AND W RADAR, PATRICK AFB, PAGE TWO RJESNO 79 THE MAGNITUDE OF THE BRIGHTEST STARS APP~qD IN THE WESTERN SKY ON A COURSE APPROXIMATELY FROM NORTH TO SOUTH IN THE SAME MANNER AS REPORTED BY EYE WITNESSES ON PREVIOUS NIGHTS.VIEWING THIS LIGHT WITH THE NAKED EYE APPEEARED TO BE A STAR, BUT WITH A CYCLIC VARYING INTENSITY. VIEWQNG THIS LIGHT THROUGH BINOCULARS SHOWED IN ADDITION THE RED AND GREEN NAVIGATION LIGHTS OF AN AIRCRAFT. SOON AFT~ VISUAL SIGHTING, THE CG1 RADAR ADVISED THE POSITION OF THIS OBJECT TO BESAPPROXIMATELY 50 NAUTICAL MILES fROM OUR INVESTIGATING AIRCRAFT AND STATED IT WAS A FET AIRLINER BOUND FOR MIAMI. AT THIS TIME THE POSIT! OF OUR INVESTIGATING AIRCRAFT WAS APPROXIMATELY W MILES SOUTHWEST OF FT PIERCE, FLA. THIS LIGHT WAS OBSERVED FOR APPROXIMATELY W MINUTES DURING ITS DESCENT TOWARD THE MIAMI AIRPORT. AT 0230 Z, APPROX- IMATELY 5 MINUTES AFTER THIS AIRCRAFT DISAPPEARED, A SECOND IDENTICAL HIGH INTENSITY LIGHT APPEARED IN THE t1ESTERN SKY MOVING FROM NORTH TO SOUTH. NAKED EYE AND BINOCULAR OBSERVATIONS OF THIS LIGHT I NDICATED THES SAME CONDITIONS AND ROUTE AS THE PREVIOUS LIGHT. THIS OBJECT PAGE THREE RJESNO 79 TRAFFIC CONTROL CE~TER AS BEING A JET AIRLINER, NAMELY DELTA AIRLIN~ FLIGHT 833 PROCEEDING SOUTHEAST ALONG AIR UAY VICTOR 97. BASED ON THE ABOVE STATEn CONOTTTON'l \.oJ.d.O Inhn&ion ilin..d.on Ott1ee o~ Information o~ \he 41 r i'oro. Dear Major Colna !OllJ" ln\er April 7 _ 1?61, re~arcii.Da lligb\1!14 oi mite light rol&ti.ac beaCOM on a1rore.n bu been iot warded t.o t.h13 o!iice !or 'i'=roed an\.l-col11nn lighta r8\.""'-lir8d tor '"li.\t; n.lgh' ~n aircr&!'\ "1a~ a :J~xi' v-osa lfei..ctl~ ot 1:\Cro ~han l2, ...00 ?Ound ::tnd uaed o n 'tf"tarq lic?tt.er aira.rs.i~ ar. red I~<tti.~ beacon.a. ':,>ec!iAl. ~rll Air ~e~l.at.\oa 5}1-3'12- li Eicb 1 2Scn..:tuJ..ld -.;. tendnai~ -oruur 25,. l?o~, ~ro!1des .ror ll-=J.~ed "V:ftn'"!e:rt..ll .19') gJ,' t rpa a or 1J..T.ht.L~ ~n ;mlan do ifdt.h t.be re).gvant. -9ei f1anion. com.u t. .:ARe n~.-"ber ot ai t!al"ena ~ype ot lit~,bta are bei!ll( oYal.uated by ~he : . .,deral !nat.ioD A1en~ iNrer.1 of -eearch and ' nelo'::Detll and 7~rl~u 'J:;,raiOTW and aanufac:\&&ren. ;be !U,j dJ,7 g! tete: l i:1hts ara: oi the. l"he oeriodia J.ia- e ~ '!!'ich ruJ1' .XD}&ia tohe il:pnss1oA ~t.._ ( .3uee az:orcwl ot '2p..ri:lteatal O'p'lration in accorocce with .;&.)92B n:-e ~ed 1:'1 \he !1\\l.d, ~h DUber and 'YP .. oi ll~ prNent.}J" in o~rnioa are not readil7 1l able. :!ai:xt...tni~ a csuzt c\ u.t ol ~ nth ax:peri.dlcnaal. lle;t:ti~ w=ulJ be 1 aa;zac=ical u it. u Stsbj eac t.o .!reqv.ecm cha.o,caa "; et5z'!l81. s1.anii :::a'VlV ., H'"K .. .uaoaou, ;niet .. 1 r :arrier Ooerationa Jlaoeb IT, I S POSITIVELY CONCLUDED BY THE DCS/INTELLIGENCE THAT ALL UFOS REPORTED IN THE ABOVE REFERENCED MESSAGES WERE OBSERVATIONS OF COMMERCIAL JET AIRLINES. IT I S THERE- FORE RECOMMENDED THAT NO FURTHER ACTION BE TAKEN ON THE UFO REPORTS. 31/~50Z MAR RJESNO 2 Oetober 196~ Dear l)'mald: Bncloaed )OU vill find t.be 'l'WX'a dealing with the J'lorida problem. "'ese mesgea &%'8. ael'f~tor.r, ao I vill launch into rq plrl.icular ph-ae,of' thU operation. OD tba 29th at AprU. I took c4r t'Iui Dobbins Air Force 13aae, CeOl!sta in a T-33 (ainsle engtne jet) juat a:rter noon t.ime. I wa ~ an instrument :tl1ght rules e.l.eorance Via high altitude jet &1~ to Key Veat lla"'fal. Air Statioo at an a.saigued altitude 000 ~ee't. M7 route took me ac:roaa Al (Georgia), Jacksonville (Florida), taytoou Beach (J'lorida), Vero Beach (Florida), ~1:11 Bea.eh (J'lorida), M1Md and l{q Weat. On takeoff flOW Atlanta 'We ;;a4 through a broken laJer or strata c umal.ua bree.ktng out on top a\ &bolt 9,000 teet. M w a,rcecbed Jac:.kaonville all c.loaJda belDv ua became DOD ex1a'te1:lt. South c4 Jacksonville I cculd aee aeroaa the atata to the Culr ot Me xS co. I bAd been brie1'ed oa a f1"011t (cold) apprcach1 ng the atate tlu4 over the Guld. I cou.ld the 1Asd1rc edge or the t'ront on the bare edge ~ th8 wa'ter:l horizon f'ar out over the Gul~. Nov, I b\d been eleze ~ UFO twporta tna i:Jle Fort Pierce, J'lor1da arer!L. Theae re'POI ta wre telephor:dc 1D Fe. trick Air Foree Bae am the Eglin Air J'vroa Blae. So, I a point to b e eapoe1ally wt.chf'ul tor a.rrr v18\&l. ailbt1nga. J'uat u w wre i8&Bin8 over the Pan Pierce area the &1rorat"t mn into modazate tn:rbnlen.ce o~ the abon vw tn 1 ... tlw't 1a, like ridin iD a c:ar over a webboarcl 'lb1a ~lecl becaun I kt!QV tM t a jet ..tra:m d.14 not ex1a~ o~r J'lorida at. th1a tiM and tM.t. the Y1nd ebear cwpoaeat - DOt aut.t'1c1mrt to produce c4 &rrr 4eg:zee. 'nle Vlnd. l:IIT al~t~ w.e a nan1nel 70 k:Jif)ta f'1014 2BO degxees. I tad ~red t.ba.t ODe ot tM tel~pbonic reporta atipulo.ted turbult!nce in eow .. oUoa 1J1:th one at tbe 81ght1nga. I began searching ~or an ana ur. B 11"8 a Fl.orid1 &ll I xec&ll.ed that muc.k tires "WWere not UIICCJ!Mihlll(1 in t.be E':zslaclea. """ slade la;r hu:l the twalve-th1 rty to ~our o'clock po.ition to tbe airc~. I looked over the gladea cloee~ am ii!" ad1ateJ.7 noted a ve%7 large muck fire. nov, aa 7J')xiCGl v1 th a cold ~roat ei tuation the surf'aee vind ,.,_., blO'tling .:"raa 'the eaa't ~hinc the smoke az:x! beat to\erd the 'West Co&at o~ !?lorida. Th1a rel.at.i ~ -.rm air mtttsl ly w.a l1tt.1Dg 1n the C\.U'!"OU.Dd1 ng cool air. When the continu1 ng i!Brm air roee %'3.pidly to the higher a.ltituaea 1 t ran in'tO the reversed upper \dnde (high a..l.ti tuaa veaterl:r) . In the proceaa ot beins li~wed the smoke wa i1ltered &ai c leared, ,.-b the air relatively heated. It aa "'''IVed direc"t.l.J" acroaa our course, ~ereby c&unint.J tu~u1ence. 1Joth1DS unusual cx:curred during the reue.inder of the leg into Xey Weat. We penetrated aDd landed. I ref\leled at Key West and filed another 1natruuent Flight lea c~ean.nee. This time m:::r deat1tat101l M;yrtJ.e Bee,(:b Air Foree Baae in South C3rol1ca. M;y route wa tbe re"Yerae ~ the other vitb a cmnge o~ cOU%'15e at Jackson- villa ~ldDS me over tbe Atlantic direct to Charleston, s. c., thence diiect to J(yrtle Beach. I tlev thia route at an altitude of 28,000 tee-t-Af'ter Jeacb1ns altitude aa ve apprcacbed. the nwdnlaud of Plorl(!a 1nbQmd to MSmJ, I noticed tlpt the aqtll liM aaaociated vith the orr:anl"l cold treat DCV ]Jing paraUel to the Florida West Coaat,almnat. at. the ahore11Da vertiCAl 17. It tight aq,al 1. line vitb a drnl ot aather act.tv1-ey (hip v1nda at the aurtaee, ll&htx.trc, etc.) 'lhe 'toiJe or the h1gheat tbnmermec!e reached to :probab~ 38,000 teet. But the baaic aqurll liDS top we at about 24,000 teat. JUat be)"oDd Miami I noticed aw 1 tmuana] bright bl.obs ot Hgbt. I lii'St aet tbe atap here the SUn setting tor tha.e OD the SZV'nd the S.m bad aet tor those at m:r alt1 tude and higber tbe Slm we still ah1n1ng. I &bla to quickly 1dent117 the &1l"'Cl'af't aime I bed aeen a Strategic Air tanker-banber re- f"'..teHns operaticm ~ore. 'l'b1a one even more spectacular due to the ref'l.ect.icm ~ tbe SUD on the aircra:tt nd the c0t1denaat1on txaila the aircN.f't wre naldnc ... ll this epsnat tbe relative]J' darll backgrou,. ~ the ou1 DO' 8q\&ll ] 1 De :fo l!bsnc elee at an umstJ?l mture occurred dur1ns the reueinder of tbe JAc into )brtle Be&t-b. :ro. ... after you haft 1 asd the encloeed 'l'WX'a, partieular~ meaeep I OM:IAS MTW-313-, ..... 10011 aa I aw th1e s, I called tlw ~11'&1 Av1&t10D AceDOJ to 1nqu1re it a n1wr type &Dti-eolu aiOD buLCea _. blinc need. ("t'ta eta~rd. baacoa ia rotat1ns aod1um (xed)) l!gbt). ~ r14 t.bq wc-,14 check iDto 1~. I 1as later 1ntoznw4 ea tbq wue exper1Nattnc vith a aev Ugbt. 'Jbe:r did ltth)V hov DIQl\T wwe bl1118 ueed u tbe experiment. be1Df5 ecmducted f'uu the t':el d otr1eea. "t'ta~ aMe4 that aevezal jet e1rl1nera vere neing the 118h" aa wll aa sa1 turbo-prop &i.rerat't. (I Md seen tid a t:7pe of light oa tuo or three &1rcnf't fl71D& out ~ Naticzrl ). You om Sg:tre wt1t. thta vtdte t;y;e etrobe intenatt7 ~= vonlc! loot like at alant ft.D88 You would pt the eeme effect, ucept morw eo, aa tch1 ns Vemta or J\lp1 ter rieins or Mtt1ng through a ba%7 .l. tlaoal)bere. Well ttet 1a about it. I PJrpoe~ rrade th1a a bit detailed tor I eli dzl I t li!!Urt, to eJ1 ght the Circu:':'S tancei!J S\U" round 1 Dg the sighti Dg ~t the Ploric!a c:aee ,_, an em::np.le or s1g,ht1ngs b y id tnessea on 'the :;:"Ql.Qd and in t-he a.ir and 1DCluded a.:ir11ne pilot veterans vbo are !lO oi'ten Dd.a takenly 1dent.1t1ed as experta on &er:1&1 pbeocmena.. Dnr JCr. Plnck: P8r t.e.lepbooe COilTeraatiCil w1 th )'OU 011 AprU 5tb, I a encJ oetng tbe CQJ.eemtns rotating Yhite llght beaeona on board ciTU a.1rcrat't en.route to M!et. r haw al eo enclosed a couple or the tm> repaz ta we haw rec:e1 "Yed to siw """ au idea ~ me ty;e or re}K)rt ve p:ts ca this subJect. V. ha'ft other eaae,ges on UIO a1ght1ngs 1n th1a ana 4ur1Dg the period in qtneUan, aa vel.l u tele})bcae queries f'raa Devqapara and rad1o atat.tnne located on the l.ower wsat. ccat ~ l'J.ortda. ID aot1c1ng deputing traf'nc out ~ Waabingtcm National Ahport I have.._._ aircrat't utU.idng & white rotating beacOD. M7 Cl'Wl7 to FAA 1a DOt to about the nee aL vh1 te ve ytll be Just.1,t1ed in 1DclucUng tbe t'aet. tha-t tb1se lights are 1D use 1D OUJ:" next De:p rta1ent or Derenae Fact Sheet release an the subJect o~ Ul'10a. Appereotl)"' tbeae vhi te beacoaa show up very well, nd I 1iOUld egxee f'l\a vbat I baw eeen &beard aw a &irc.ratt. Other colora o~ tbe ~ would abov up, aa seen by aODe observers, due to ~ ~ 1'1l.t1at1cn r4 the aourc:e Ugbt tbrougb tbe a~bere. ~ 1D.t'omat1011 IOU cn turniah CD tbta subJect, via-.-na, t);a or ~ mabel" 1n use, etc., vill. be appzactatacl. . l.r. Chnrlea E. ?1 anc.k _ ~hl1 c A:rtain Off1c:e { PA-lD) .'ederal Aviat.ion Mm1n1 stration iiashtngtcm 25 WILLIAM T. COUiKAR, JR. MaJor, USAP PubHc InromatiOD Dlriai011 Otn.ce cd InfOl::IBUQl Aa SOOD aa I replied to the queriee and uplAined vbat t.ho :problem we, .,. tad no more reports aad the llgbta on the a1rcraf"t wre contimae4 1n use. PJ.e 1e let tnov 1r I can be or t'Urtber aasiatance on thia. It m mce eee1ns J'OU the otber dq. Hov about annghlS to coo in ~ lnncb one ~ so w caa talk 1n a more reJxed a t:zooapheret Dr. Dewald H. Menzel WIT.JJAJC T. COI.aiMt\H, JR. )lt.Jor, OSU UiO Ploject Of'ticer PUblic Inf'onatian D1v1e1an atnce c4 Jnf'oi'UBtioa D1zector ~ Harvard College ObMrvato:Iy CDmhridp 38, MuJacbuaetta The ftillov:lng u an ean"'Ile or UFO a1ght1ngs i:tm>lving wteran p1late: a receot tlnrry ~ mo reports nua the l.owr East Coest area or l'lod.d ca.. 1D t'lua. ~ obae:rten, includtns &1rltne and xllit&rJ pllot8. Sa. pilots X"eported tttrt..,lenee 1a clr atr as well aa 1;be aigbt1ng or ~bbing_, o.cUlattng br1gb:t white ltgbt. t',.t ~u-. chnge4 colo;-." Dur1D& the period the Air Force Ul!'O ProJect orncer w.s pUottns a Jet a1reratt 1.n that n.dni ty en route to Key West tnw Robb1na Air Force Base, Georgia. Be waa ~at 29 .teet wben he uw 1Dto clear at r turbuleDce. He, too, w s puzzled ror the : becanse he lmew the vin4 shear at the al t1 tude w nat autftc1eat to cm;aae tu~bul ence en4 there no Jet Q! loold ng arouod .tor a poasihle expla:nat.tca, he noticecl a large Jmck fire btandng 1D. Eversldu. Due to 11t1d'ace viDds being oppo.rd.te that oZ b1&b '~'had. vi"" (=mal. ill a colt pre-f'Jontel caYUt1aa) 1Jda hted\ ~,.. l'ft& ~ ecritaetlm aotlca wat.m Ullttl it C8le 'tP'Mr the\ SafbiiMI ~ tbe pe ot1ltn1 altitude waterlf... It .. Yin:ds BS"'e4 .-relat1~ w.ra air 1Dta the night :path o.t the Jet, thereb y e"'ns turbulence. Sbort.l7 a:tter tbia, a B-57 Jet balber ::n eCll'mDbled trca Pat.riak 1'1 r Force Etase to int.rwpt a nportod ~ aaucer." The lS-51 pilot wa ftotonc1 1owu'4 the "target" rui Yba YiWn 50 "'U ~ tbe terpt he coul4 '" tb ~bbiDg, oac1llat1ns, br1gbt 'White ltcbt. ~ look11S at it through a :pail" or powertul. binoeul.ara '14 14JnU.t1e4 it u a ci.,U Jt airliner i.zlbouDd to M'i International A11port. Sbortl7 tbueaner be u.rtU1e4 anotber a111ar aircraft. Both ~ tbaae atlbUnp wen repart1d aa UiOa b~ ~ ~1ople, 1nclJ1f\1ns pt..l.ot.. ~to tbe Feural A~Ucm Asm07 counuae4 that ama civil Jet asrltera wn l18i.q a at.robetnws llgbt ot high intmu t7 JDOUDted one a\to'Je the otber 1'1aabin& altentate17 \ibcn t.hta tne ~ 11pt 1a at alaat "" through relaU~ thickened a, aw-n to be ... than 1 t rll7 11 am "abova" 41 thrmt coton (4ue to p.U.t.ia efi'eo\ ~ at..osphan 1nd lisbt) E.ECURITY CL.ASSIFiq' !JN J OINT MESSAGEFORM UNClASSI F IED SPA.CC BELOW RESERVED FOH. COMMUNI CATIO N CeNTER PRECEDI!:NCE TYPE MS G (Chclc) ACCOUNT I N G CTI O N ROtll'INE POOl( MULTI SINOLIE ORr-~;', OR \EFERS T\ C(I.ASSI FICATION ~REFER ENCE PATRICK AFB t.tr..l j TSIS ~!SG CONFIRMS OUR TELEPHONE REQUEST OF 28 MAR 61 THAT YOUR ORGANIZATIOtl ATTEHPI' TO SECURE SOME PHO'IOG~HS OF 'rnZ STRAl~G:S LIGHTS S::::EN I N YOUR AREA. SYMBOL 51C.NATURit ~PECIAL INSTRUCTIONS \f~Jo~?"r.ot>ert J . rtead ,e,_ ~ sttcu~" CLA,..,I ICArtON j ~< tmC L~.JSIFIED ~puty for Science e~d Compon~nts RI:~LACI:S DD P'<DRM 173, 1 OCT 4., WHICH WILL. OE U 11:0 UNTIL. FXHA.U&TitD Nov, tor the "gloving, cireula.r o"bjecta." We "scrambled" a B-57 Jet baaber (Ugbt) af"ter oae c4 tbe llghtr vh&l ve acquired an obJect CD our radar &'t tba Air Force MiDrila Teat Canter {C:l-pe C&J:s:veral). 'lbia obJect an tbe l&dr eoinc.ided with v18U&l reporta ol a U1'V M411l traa the gi"''md. 'lbe B-57 visual ccmtact Yitb the t'Ut7 aU c11atent. Aa be appralchocl closer to tl'e object" fte pilot able to the "gloving, circular light" (t!:ena wre ~other d.eacrlpUon) thro\16b bi:loculara. It a ciril. a1rU"er 1nbcnmd to-M:fmt. end the c1mre c4 tho circular l"1ght wa a baaCOD ~the Yhite ttfl)e with atrobe 1ntena1t7. ~ t'urther )OCl wn rzaa tbe light, tbereb7 ad4tns ~f;ooapheric density, the larprr lt ap;rn .a. am ap;eum~ color (spectrua nltrat1on tbe abl(lel)hiue at e'Mt. tngle). Wbila the B-57 ,.. airborne, ~ t'11U8 report.~. 'J'he B-57 save chere anct :t'ound it to be =notber c:irtl aSrUner vitll a vhtte, .trobe tne rotatSna anti- oolltlCD b110011 altO inJxwmd to M!ee1 'fbi a tnfon!lt:tial W8 pro"rlded aewa ..US repreaeatat.1'Na ill tb1:t ana an4 ~quen~ ve bave blld = 1Urtbu' 1~U:. t.1w tbat uea. 4o 1lO't mr~ret tbe above report aa the answer to all. aa )OU yUl t'raa tba attacba5 tact ahfJet~ I hGpe tb1a 1ntoxmat.10D nd the atteeh1d 1a helpt'Ul. Your interest 1n tht a tter ia appzeci a:tecl. WI E.lJAN T COLDIAll *Jor ," C8A.J' P\1 h1 Sa ID.f'Oma t10D D1 Tiaica otnoe f:4 Infom&tica Aa fte UPO ProJect ~eer ~or the Atr Foree (recently aaa1gned) I would like to poi:lt up a recent caee 1Dvol.vi.n8 IJUmeroua iahti:lg3 by. l!BD7 people, 1aeluding airltne pilata, m111t&r;y persOD.Oe1 neva Jl:ed1.a representatives and others. A couple or weeks ago ve began getti::tg nuaeroua report. ~ "6]ov1ag, circular objecta high in the aky over the l.over Weat coast of Florida. During the peak of t.heee obaez1at1ons I, u a Jet pUot, ..,.. t"l.y1og over that. aect