PROJECT 10073 RECORD CARD 1. DATI 2. LOCATION 12. CONCLUSIOMI 16 F b Palacios Texas D p,.~.~lr a .. a. ... Peaal W r Bell" - ....,#'!_ .. YI D GrexnRr D Woa AJrcr.ft 0 lnaufflcient Dote lw llotlet~ Bright gloto~ing red obj moving at a speed almost as fa~t a s a shooting s t ar. Lo.t~r n. w.ss of vcr-; small lights, white a:J ~h~ ;,tar , 1Att Gnollcr, :.J..t-pt;:.tr :?u vi th the red obJ moving cloc}~.,i:Jt: vith:Ln th~ I!l.?~'>!"t of sno.ll lightG. Th~ c uase for this si ting i 3 p r obably abarration of the lig~t f r om the s t a r ; rcturus by the .1inJ.o'r G~rccn, coupl~d ,,it!l n or !:::ll pulr;ating 32. In the following sketch, imagine that you are at the point shown. Place an A" on the cu..Ved I ine to show how high the obiect was above the horizon (skyline) when you first saw it. Place a "B on the same curved line to show how high the obiect was above the horizon (skyline) when you lost saw it 33. In the following larger sketch place on A" at the position the obiect was when you lint sa~ it, and a a at its position when you last saw it. Refer to smaller slcetch as an example of how t'! complete the larger sketch. 39. Do you think you can estimate the speed of the obiect? .'J / (Circle One) Yes / N:) IF you answered YES, then what speed would you estimate? 40. Do you think you can estimate how far away from you ~h~ obiect :*as? ( / ly' L "r""' gy S { G Ji T f fiG? IF you answered YES, then how far away wou d you say it w s? (., ,...~ ' .-. fet.:oo 41. Please give the following inforlltation about yourself: TELEPHONE NUMBER _h~--1..:{~) _ Please Indicate any special educational training that you have had. t';) Grade school ---------- d. Post graduate ---------- 42. Date you completed this questionnaire: Month Yeor 34. What were the weather conditions at the time you saw the obiect? CLOUDS (Circle One) 34.2 WIND (Circle One) () Clear 1 ky Slight breeze Scattered clouds c. Strong wind Thick or heavy clouds d. Don't rema . Don't ren:emlser 34.3 WEATHER (CI~I One) 34.4 TEMPERATUP.E {Circle One) Fog, mist, 011 light rain Moct.rate or heavy rain e. Don't JetiiemLer e. Don't rememl.r 35. When did you report to ome official that you had '"n the obiect? Day Month Y eor 36. Was anyone else with you at the time you saw the obiect? (Circle One} Yes ~ 36.1 IF you answered YES, did th.,y see the obiect too? (Circle One) Yes No 36.2 Please list their names ond oddres .. s: 37. Woa this the first time that you hod s"n an obiect or obiects lilce this? (Circle One) ~!) No 37.1 IF you answ.ared NO, then when, where, and under what circumstances did you s" other ones? 38. In yow opinion what do you thinlc the obiect was and what might hove eaused it? U. S. A I R F 0 R C E T E C H HI CAL I H F 0 R MAT I 0 t S H E E T (SUMMARY DATA) In order that yfNII lnfarmation may I. filect and coded as occurC'Itoly as possible, please us the following pace to write out a short description of the event that you obs&rved. Yt'u may re- ion that you have already given in the questionnaire, and add -Jny further c"mments, , alcetches that you INiieve are Important. Try to Jlresert the details of the observa tion In the In which they occurred. Additional.pages of the same size p:.per may b. attached if they neeclecl. (Co Not W,ite ;,, This Space) PALACIOS Tt:l.AS Major, LjtWr8llOe J. '!hacker USAF Ex~utive Officer of Information Services ~right-Patterson Air Force BPse, Ohio. Dear Ma.Jor ThAcker:- Atter metling the questtonn~i!'e on 7esterd~ys mnil I thought ora~an oaisslon that might ~e or Tast imnort~noe ln estA~llshina the distance end size ot the o~jects. The star ( which I first thought to ~e the co .. ~ndent of the gr ) ~eins lar8er) when tirst seen wss a;out one h~lr the redlus r~om th~ WeJJt rl and center ot the circle or l i!hts, tl~en in cl osP. to thre~ minu ts \ wt sh I cou 1 d -,e mo!"e PT'e s 1 ze Jn t t me ) it h ~d moTfltc! to the center or cl uat8r J Ttten Rft"" much thought I came un wl th ~ tormuls th&t I sunoose you us~ d~ly. In addition to the ansul11!" cslculAtiona from a gten notnt on thi: P.arth, let us ~ssumflt that we al"e on t1'e star t"'~ined on ~ gl Ten nntnt on tl~P. earth !tnd not.,lng the distance sAid nolnt mo~ed wit~ the rotAtion or thft e~rth whtoh we know to be e~out 16~llee r minutP. 'lhen in three lnut~a ot tlmethe d1CJtAnoe r"'o the c~ntP.~ of clustet- to point th ~ t s t" !" w tt s t l r s t seen w ou l d .,e I j X 16 48 m 1 1 e s t rom centarAwhea& st~r w~s tirat seen to center-~M~1/2 rpdius then thA diameter ot olroular c1ust6r would ~e 4 X 48 or 192 miles minus projection, R~out ' degrees triangulation from viewing point Oh!hand thla to the aathematticlen its too much for me. Let us sa7 the projecton ratio on three degrees is ~ : 1 then the dlstanoe to o~ject would .,e T. 44)\) = 4000 miles Then aa to speed: It ' desrees = 4000 ailea end the o;ject traTeled s~y 21 dft8rees in 2 alnuts or less thft s~eed would ~e the ratio ot ~vjor 7 and 'I X 4000 = att,ooo 2 = 14,000 miles n@ltr ln. Now lAt e quote trom a ten ~lrse ooea I comnos in 1916 . There'll ,e new methods or tl7tns not wt th ouT-crude m~ch lne, In o'ercoalnssra'Ylty the science will conYene: I It ma7 ~e a Cheists coa~ound th~t sr~Yit7 w111 re~ellJ. lhet-e~r the uaknown power we'll ~lt tor tim8 to tAll. ' ~ow 1 et u s ch~ngA the l a.st two l in-J~ to re~d: It ma '":te en electro ray thAt will nullifJ ill .,.eight: rhen will all aiT'~orn CT'~r:-~e truel;r nut or dAte Then assum~ting some s,l,..,ner intel l ig.ont. ~P.i.ng W?t:f out in s""2ce has realy acooaplished thft fest: Welp,ht]p,snes~ mnJtt-::'11~d ..,-:~ a million Gs. would still ')a wPizhtlP;~.J ~r.d ~ n~n ~'f!t;,~llt ..Yi. "': would sutter no ill et tact.s Jy such a t-r~attndious rate of acceleration. Sincere17, '"40uo:> PJnltJo till ??Lei O.aa Euialll:e M,.,. GaineS' Co-rpo-ron Palacios-, TexaS' Washington, 2.5, D. c Dea~ Coaaend~r:- An unlden~l le o~1eot a~"~s ln the sk7 Peb. eb. at about 5:40A.M. Whlch wa3 traellns South ~3 a rew desreea las' and stopped ~Y the star ( J ) in VEIDOJ 'l'H!I't there ~pJ)-ea.rd a aa.sa ot sJDP] l lishta around it and lt had an ilit7 to mooYe clock-wise a.mons the lllbta in Rn eratio cource a~out one-thl~ thP. radius tro the outer ria or the circular as or lights, then stte.-ooapl et l ns a 'lout 7/ A ot a cl role 1 t lftoYed to the oe!tter- ot the aaaa Bnct c~e to rest with lta lorth si ~lmo~t touohlns the atar, then I tailed to a8e the sm8ll 1tghts the7 seeaed to Ysnlsh all at the aaae tlae, then the in ob.Jeot aeeaed to 6ban-ae it~ deaisnJ the l engt.h sfltemed t" ahanse to lts deptb and in leaa th~n 1J seconds it 8rew so all that lt ~ lnYlal~le, as tho Tani3hlns tn the di3tance. : The o~ject waa a)out t~o times longftr than its width and ita depth appeard to ~e two-thirds or its width; with ~ll lhot 7ou niaht ~ 1nt8re t or help ~ contact soaeone who ia. Your a truel;r. to 7carr ~ obJect 16 t tbat you ftll out tbe attached queatl paper dlftct to the Air Technt aD A1r P.:nce Baae To f'urther aleS 1ll our ~1a pl-... a Air Tecbl'tcal Ill'tel11pnce Center vitA tbe t add1t1 l~ar-.UCD: dta.ter ot the llpta (cl.ter) and 8D eatilate or their 41atanoe. Total U. obJeot ill a18bt. B8UIIa'te at at leut oae ~laa ~ the pli.M obJect. Exacut1~ Otricer P.tbllc Int t.ion Division Of~ice at Int~tion Jervicea Pa.Jaci011 U. S. A I R F 0 R C I T E C H HI CAL I H F 0 R MAT I 0 H S H E E T Thle CIUttlonnaire has leen prepared so thot you can give the U. S. Air Force aa much lnfwNtilft ae poeeible concernlne the uniclentlfiecl aerial phenomenon thot you have observecl. Pleaae try to anawer ae nwny questlu aa you possibly can. The lnfornwtlon that you 1lve will -.. ueo4 fer '"rch purpotes, ancl will M regar4e4 aa confidential material., Your name wUI nof .,,.., 1ft connection with any stateNnts, conclusions, publications without your permisalon. We requeat thle personal Information that, If It Ia dMme4 necey, we may contact you f fwther dotolla. 1. When dhl you Me tho olaje ? 2. Th of clay: -~ 3. Time aone: (Circle One}: o. Eastern "'b) Centro I c. Mountain d. Pacific tow the object? (Circle One}: \, ~ (Circle One): a. Daylight S.vlne (~ Stonctorcl CUret Tow" Ste te et Coufttr r AcldltiOMI reiiiOflca; s. Eati111ote how lone you aow the obiect. .1f.uu Mhw Secon4a A}J. _ 5.1 Circle one of the following to iftflicote how certain you ore your onawer to ueatlon 5 o. Certain -.. Fairly certaIn 6. Whot woa the concliticn of the alcy? (Circle One}: o. Bright daylight h. Dull doylight c. Bright twilight c. Not very sure @ Juat o gueas (d~ Ju1t a trace of day I ight ~-..-." No trnce of daylight i. Don' r remeuftber 7, IF you 1aw the obiect during DAYLIGHT, TWILIGHT, or DAWN, where was the SUN located as you loo~ed at the obiect? , (Circle One): a. In front of you , \ \' ( ~ In bock of you \;) -" ' Overhead c. To your right 1. Don't '"'"''~'.,' ATIC I'ORM NO. 164 ( U OCT 64) U. I. A I R f 0 R C I T E C H N I CAL I N F 0 R MAT I 0 H SHE E T Thla queatlonnoire has ieen preparecl ao that you con give the U. S. Air Force much lnftion poaalble concernlne the unlclentlfiecl aerlol phenomenon rhot you hove observed PI "' to onawer ny queatlona you posalbly con. The lnformotion thot you give will ~ uae4 f rnrch p""oaes, on4 will be regerclecl conficlentiol rial . Your noMe will not be uae4 In cMnectlon with any 1 ta, conclusiona, or publications without your pmlaalon. We , .. .,.,, thla peraonol Information 10 thot, If It Ia clcl neceasy, we m6y contact yeu f furth lla. 1. When 414 you the obJect? (Circle OneJ: a. Eastern t b:} Centrol c. Movnteln cl. Pacific (Circle OneJ: (Circle One): o. Daylight Saving ~' Stanclo~cl 4, Wh were you wt.en you aow the obiect? o. Certoln it. folrly certain 6. Whot 1 the concUtian of the alcy? (Circle OneJ: a. Bright doylight b. Dull daylight c. Bright twilight c. Not very sure (!~ Juat o gueaa @ Juat a trace of day I ight e. No trace of daylight f. Oon'r r~tmmbet 7. IF you aow the oliect during DAYLIGHT, TWILIGHT, 01 DAWN, where was the SUN located aa you loo"ed at the obiect? ( Cirde One): a. In front of you , . c. Toyourright To your left f. Oon' t remmber ATIC I'ORM NO. 164 (II OCT 14) 8. IF you aaw the obfect ot NIGHT, TWILIGHT, or DAWN, what eifel you notice concerning the STARS and MOON? 1.1 STARS (Circle One}: . 8.2 MOON (Circle One): o. Bright ittoortllght lt. Dull moonlight @ No moonllfht pitch clark 9. Woa the olliect lwlghter then the ltaclcpouncl of the alcy? (C lrcle Orte}: BRIGHTER THAN the alcy ltoclcpouftd, woa the lwlghtneaa lllce that of on oufOtuoille (C lrcle Orte} o. A mile or more owoy (o ellatant cor)? 1.. Several bloclc away? c. A IJioclc away? lt,ht?J N l r cl. Severa I ,arels away? 11. DW the oltject: a. Appear to atand still at any time? lt. Suddenly speed up and ru1h away at any time? c. Brealc up Into porta or eplocle? cl. Give off smolce? Change brightness? 1: Change shape? I Flfclcer, throb, or pulsate? (Circle One lor eaclt queflon