PROJECT 10073 RECORD CARD 2. LOCATIO" 12. CONCLUSIONS 0 Was Balloon 0 r ro babl y Balloon 3. DATITIMI! GROUP 4. TVP!Ofl OIS!RVATION Possibly Balloon Local 1 7 2 5 l:J:'Grouncl-Vhuol 0 GroundRador .nx Wos AI rcroft 0 Probably Aheroft GMT 01/2225Z 0 AI,.VIsuol 0 Alrlntercept Radar Po .. lbly Aircraft S. PHOTOS 6. SOU D Wos Astronoml col DYes D Probably Astronomical ;a~. Civilian D Possibly Astronomical 7. LINOTH OP OlllltVATION I. NUMI!R OP CBJI!C:TS 9. COURSI! 0 Other--~-~-~-- 0 In suffl clont Ooto for Evoluotlon 5 minu tcs 10. IRIIP SUMMARY OP liGHTING rolling object with vapor trail. Had a reddish glow. Was about the siz9 of a shirt buttou . l 'aded out, brightened tht.Hl faded, d D r l< o!)j ec t between glows. 11. COMMENTS D Unlcnown 3 JauvrJ. l9S8 .: ... .oa :30-Jneaba tlaia oti a call froa l~"''-'-lf1t4 1111 .. ~ e.c~ tlle paeYiov.. d.aJ O'ltrr t . .la ~bJ:t Y.'lt~ a1a oaal aot1oa l)1ctru- caaer ... ac.i atate-4 ~ YCIII&lcl twa rll of t1la O"fl' . te tllia ol.fiu I pz-1ae .-ooa. u h 11a1sh.-J \ ~KPN1.a& tu a-ol 'i -a1t..z-aooa. ta,l1, .. 4 a '~far pickup, a~cnedA3/c Pr4 Stal11r oltice ~ eiwe te ~. - ricleaoe ..-&4 w..P.t ~. ._ W'Oll ot taAA t l.l.a tc, t)l t1tiee f ~ .. 1q. I lace t.ller are no local Ai~ JPwoe :fao111t1H t 1Jai 8JfJI color, ,.- 4ec1de4 to ll&Ye fila .~eoeued oop rplu c~ reial 1ae111t1 .. &Yall<le ltr Drac &tor a 't I~ t aacl ~ .-I 'h:r'sM tile lila. 1a 1a J17 ,.,.. &od aft.r aJ)p.1.o .. 1a&tft17 fft 1 proei.&g 1 p1 eked 1.:.~ U. fila. fila . ea t:ra proeeaaiA" ... OZ' tL&ccl. lAI kaw ot nuoa 1 or liE'. to ulu 0r 1 ae :rt of objeota._ . latonaatloa; an cawbp &de. 1 . cJaS.lclr no o~Miene4 tae o'bj .. ete. led ., ll-Mftl'&l tiM d1a-:u .. 1 tl.l.~ 1tb.. b Y1UI .,Ute a~pr1ad &Dd MPP7 wt.-..a I t~lcl laia u 414 un Mft&'&l 10od Allot. ct ue '~C'Ia obj.-cta. ue pre .. atlJ aw&J.tio.c rturc ~ ~'l or1,11al lila fa- ftiP'-Pa'ttenoa Air ror~ l' .... , whiea Y1ll U.e~a be nbzu4 to IlK'. Bea.. . llr. ~ te be tw kia 'baA4linc-~f . .... "' u11. eit'A&Uoa U. fw Jala :t'e w1ak ~o N ot MrT1~ ~ to tta AU ~OI'ce Ilia UJ )T repcr't1a.& t.ncl..- era~ful fe . ettu fte 11tJ. of fils aa 'o ezpon:re .oolor ....._. to 'be ot x~lla~t. qoalltJ . tM pb wu w.ll oa a ao.t M d. tw-u.. uaUtaac. 1a ii.ll oa u. G. SCBAI.t.p uu VIAl' t1ot~ial Braoek_ Df2bV1CHEO January 30, 1958 Captain Schall~r Pictorial Branch, USAF 6085 Sunset Blvd. Hollywood. California Dea r Captain Schal1er: Here is the report you requested in our last telephone con~ versation. I believe it to be accurate and complete On Sunday, Dec. 1, 1957 at approximately 3 P.M. my wife and I were in home it?-Montebello, when our eight ~ear old boy , and , one of the twin girls (age 13) living across the street came in the house screaming "flying saucers, flying saucers I ran outside but the objects were nowhere in sight. I assumed by their actions that they had indeed seen something unusual, so I ran back in the house, grabbed my 8mm movie camera, in the hope that whatever they saw would return. At this point, the win h e aring the comma t l on, joined us on the side wall<:. the twins ol..der sls t Hr, a n d several adult neighbors also w~nessed the We were intently searching the eastern po~ . he sky where-: r'. the objects were l !io t seen, and suddenly I s six U .:4 's in ob-~ viou s .formation, movlng rather slowly in a wester y direction just slightly north o l ' our position, maintaining a constant speed and direction until they disappeared in the west. Fortunately, it was a beautiful day, the sky a lovely blue. While I was taking the films, s ome branc h e s of a tree (no leaves this time of year) a ppeare d in the viewer. 'l'llis incident was later t ermed "very fortunate" by Capt. Schaller, Oid . P;.r, Pic t orlal Branch, USAF t.-"~-"-1 The objects a~peared va snaped, and t e color a soft wh~te. I suppose it could be discr ed as a soft white light. It did not appear to me to be the type o.f light reflected from shiny meta1. This is the best verbal discription I can give. As soon as the objects disappeared, I phoned the Dept. They advised me to phone several othersnumbers be a waste of time no answer on Sunday. FJ.L.A. Sheriff's which proved to At this point the kids came running in the house a gain, very excited, yelling "they're back"! I ran outside , bu t wa s too l ate. Th8 kids said that the formation had changed pattern ag9.in, 9.nd that this time they went ?.Yer "very f~- -4! ..,Al tbgetk_! tQ kids saw thre e pe.sses~s to ~t, ~-t t ? west.,)anct:::Dac_k in t o disappea r i n a gen eral southeaste~ y direct~on.Ji' :J Afte r the exc ment ~' a d d ied down, I separ a t e d th e kids a n d had e ach of theme~.a di'9.g re..m of the farma tions, ::~bering e . . and am forced to rely on the children's discription of the first and third foi'mation patterns. I'm sure the :following is correct: 1. A ratl1e r tight three-quarter circle. 2. Grouped in two's and arranged in a slightly elongated triangle. 3. A straight wing forrttation. Having no success at my first attempt on the phone, I decided to phone the operator. Taking the risk of her thinking me a lunatic, I explained the whole story, and asked to be put in touch with some- one in the Air Force. She came up with the number of a Capt. Shapiro. He referred me to Captain Schaller. He was very courteous and seemem interested. Hoping to eliminate any possiblibic);large of fraud, I told him that I would rather let the Air Force develop the film. A couple. days later an enlisted man stopped by the house, picking up the sketches and the undeveloped film. About three weeks later I again talked to Captain Schaller, and he ~eemed well p l eased and even a little excited, and he said the films were of"excallent quality", and the best UFO' s he had seen. He added that a. l'a. r well-known officer by the name o Colonel Dean Hess ~as about the films, a~d t ha?-he ou tl ~11 me. . , )'! .--Colonel Hes:J CHlle d the next~ning and c ompl ented 1 o n the j manner in which '[ lltl(l h~ndled~e si tu.ation, and said in his opinion the films were,.t !1~. ~.~i.t.h.Hfs0 s that he had s een, including the f'ilms used th. the Iiiov to rf . [if .o. e&:L. -Hess told me the original film was myl;i o~... property and WOllld be returned to me. He added, "I have taken the ~.; liberty or sending the films back to Wright-Patter:3on AFB where they have the .facilitie s to analyse and make copies of the .film". He also 1 _ Pentagon and the A.lr Chiefs of Staff' were d oubly int(~rested in view-. ing the film, especlally when t hey discovered that the person that (,_..A had taken the pictures had not yet seen the results. (I still haven!r''~ as of this date). In a subsequent conversation with Col. Hess, he~ said I would also receive a 16mm copy. i"' J[J.Qit!1~- -- I have told my story to various friends. When some of them .... ~ .. ~ doubted my story, I phoned Capt. Schaller , asking for a letter of acknowledgement to prove my story. Three days later I received in t he mail a copy of' the report Capt. Schaller had sent to' a Col onel Mitchell, Air Technical Intellegence Center, Box 378, Pasadena, Calif '\\, One shocking note was pointed out to me by a vili invest- 'Fr~-ijJ ~ i gqtor v1ho alleges a n Ai:' .Force "polic:y o f ~ecre?y o -... refer: ;to .~ ./( t o the o .f.Clcial orders tltlf3d JA1'iAP 1~1:o. A.1..s o AI4lR 20 0 - 2 and or.fJ.Cl.a l (!-" ~ instructions to personnel of t h e CAA based of JANAP 146 . This latter p~t. :v~-order applies to civilian airline pilots who report UF0 s officially, ~ ltvv on a communications system known as CIRVIS---Communications Instructions ll.,;./ rJ... f or Reporting Vital Intelligence Sightings I v~rny all the s ecrecy if ~.J' ( / \ . UFO' s are explainable phenomenon? .. ~c'? \ It i s my understanding that it is AF policy to vigorously invest- igate all "good" UFO reports. Almos t two months have past and the only person u that has bothered to investigate me was a flying saucer enthusiast. It is also my understanding that it is AF policy to send a detailed questionaire to all people making a " g o od report. Where' s mine? If they wait much longer, t h e report will probably be class- ified as ot "doubtful value" or similar double-talk. In conclusion, I would like to point out that many civilian and military pilots, radar men, control tower personnel, scientists, astronomers, and ordinary citizens like myself have made these reports. The otr:tcla~YA.B'e olie te te has been to ridicule these observations, exp ~-away as weather .. _20I)...._,_PJ.~.--~or , m_ r _ages, mock suns, p!anets, refle ions , _ w~ir9, -~loud f;ormations, etc ~Th.is s'toclt- a.rrswer is- botli tmpruaent and inaccurate. It is certainly" 1nsuffi:e1ent to explain the agility of the UFO's we saw and photographed. Who ever heard of weather b alloons flying in foimation? The objects we saw traversed the sky 'I'HREE TIMES, .from horizon to horizon, maintaining a different format l.<)n pattern with each pass. This sighting is dramatic evidence supporting the argument held by many competent observers that there ts _:l;ntellegent control_. Hoping .this rHport to be of value Sincerely, Los Angele~, 22 4 February 1958 REPORT OF INTERVIEW WITH MR. On 31 January 1958 Mr. and Mrs. called ~t my home to pick up the Smm film which they had loaned this office. We had finished duplication of the film at a local color film lab and the original Smm 11m was returned to Mr. Benn. I examined his camera, an Srum Keystone Capri K28 1!" F3.5 telephoto lens Tiffen Photar 85 series 21.5mm. The filua used was Kodachrome Indoor Type .ci shot outdoors with a type-A filter. The distance settiqs was on infinity and shot at 16 frames per second I asked Mr. the following questions: Q. Wluat is your estimate of the altitude o:f the objects which you photographed? A. .tl.bout the same height as the light airplanes which I frequently/fly over the house, between 3000 and 4000 feet. Were they at any time as high as jet air- craft which make vapor trails? A . No, definitely not. Q. Di.d you see any smoke trnil or any l~ind af trail from the obj~cts? A.\ No there was no visible trai.l of any sort. Q. What was the direction of flight? A. The first pass sighted by the children came from the West and went in an easterly direction. Q. Were they in any sort of formation? .a. Yes, a very close or tight formation in a 3/4 circular formation. Q.~ at what speed, compared to a 1ight plane passing ovar? About the same speed, maybe a little slower. Q. What direction was the second pass? They came from the East head~ng West in an enlarged forJu.ltion, split into pairs, with the point of the V formiltion to the right side of the formation. Q. Wh.a.t was the speed of this pass? A. ..:l.bout the same as the first pass, slightly slower than a light airplane. Q. What about the third pass? A. This pass was not photographed, but the boy said they went over in a straight-line formation. opposite the viewers position at a very fast speed,, at about the same altitude. Q. What were the size of the objects? A. ~hat's hard to say Would you say they were as big in circum- ference as a circle inclosing the wing tips and tail to nose section of a light airplane? ... i.. Yes, about that size. Q. Were they all the same size? Q. What shape? They were circular, and relatively flat. Q. What color? rt. Sort o1 white-blue-green glowing objects. Q. What <lo you think they were? A. I clan t l~now, but they were certainly not balloons or ai.1plAnes like any I had seen before. (This conclude d the main portion of tha interview. is in the process of moving to a new business in northern California. .Any future contact can be addressed to him at , ~edding, California.) n CH.-:WD G. S ClL~LER Captain, US~ Chiaf, Pictorial Branch ,. 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AIJZOt~ SCIENTIST INV!STIGAlU ~ TS A. a ruult olthe ,.aut Tunon.,_.._ lnga, Dr. L McDandcl, Director of the ~1\ierslty of A.rfiDFJ 1 .. tfhltll of Atw:=-pf.rlc ~a.t.il;wn etclantfnc l""'attlgctlon of \EO.. MDre ttu 50 wl"11111 prhetely ducrlbecl slghtt,. of M)tl a:rlo obfech to Dr. M&:ODnald olw he w;ad M!utwn to glwe hi detelled r1pa:aa. n.e:elt ,., ... , baut their 'tlnclty, Dr. McDouiilcl told tt.AriJOrta IEPUIUC. ... W the cburwen ,toli&M ftuly with hi, ttw:ou;h tfwy eMil noel to M quoted In Mwtflllf 111 lot w fll rWicula. NICAP r.te to uhn1 PIW:zb'y tl lial a ... ~. wlftiSFD laep lllent, feat,. .ffdiYI tf JW bH -.f.,., hlddan rapoitt, plucu ur11 MllfWII to und ..-dataHt wfth pa:MI .. a...ta-.-tt.lt A II.... AJfhwth IIMitM It I QAItw apKO peew.rlh 1,..,1cUote pubUc.tlon of It