PROJECT 10073 RECORD CARD 12. CONCLUSIONS 2. LOCATION C Was Astranomlc.t DYes . C Probably Astronomical i<t:J.No civilian 0 Possibly Asttonomicol 0 Insufficient Dato for Eve~luotion 10. BRII, RY 0' SIGHTIMO kPbrandt Case: See case File. saucer landed, men got out and tal:-\.ed r.vi tness. AT!C POitM 329 (RKV 21 SaP 52) C Un1cnoYm 11. COMMENTS Evaluated as an eccentric by the inveotigato:r-. Attributed to psychological t1?0 RESEARCH CJUNC IL FJR FOLL RART ICUL;.RS INVESTIGATION, &VD CONCLUSIONS n EGARDING ~y"'-c..v""' . ~---- Case Fi~a Number 'l'hre3. On September 20, 1955 I reoaived a letter from ona ~s. of C~eve~and which stat.ed that she had visited with a you%J8 man who hadl had ea amazing experience. ~e wen1; on to say that this fa11ow to~d only his mo~er, his pr)~s~ and her about the even'!; but that he wanted to talk with someo.na who knows abo\lt suoh things. Soon after I accompanied tv1o other UFORC investigators to Mrs. home where the interview was to take p~ao.e. V'lith the wi oka_yr we recorded the comp~e'te interview with a dict..aphnne. The witness's name 21 year o1d fellow who, at first impress sincere. Following is a reprod ion ot attidavit aooount: , I re:sid.e at 4B,. Cle:ve:Land 8, Ohio. On Tuesday morning, August 29, ~955 batv1een 1:30 a.m. and 2:00 a~m. I was operating my automobUe in a \Vesterl...J' direction on Chardon Road, ROllte 6. Abo~ two miles west ot the intersection o~ R~ta 6 and 306 I saw wha't looked l.ike a shooting sta-r enter my righ-t windshie:td. I parked my oar on the right side ot Route 6 and looked to the North.8ilaiit into the f i elid vvhere the o b j eo t s .e emed to hi.t I thought this object might have been a meteorite and therefore walked through the fie~d ror a o1oser examination. \fllen I was about 450 teet into tha fie~d and near the object I saw that the object was some kind of aircraft. It was about thirty feet ~ diameter and had a dome on top. I began to get scaredi, turned, and ran back taw:arda the road. I had run about fifty feet vthsn a green light bolted out in front of me. I turnedi around facjng the aircraft: and was then unable to move m~ bod3',yet, I oould speak as the green light shone on ma. A door slid open in this aircraft, some kind at platfor~ came out, and a man, w~th something resemh~ing a ski sui~ on, emerged :r:rom the o:bject.. '.rh:f..s man tol.d me not to he afraid , tha~ the~' had l anded there tQ be discovered but didn't expeotr anyone to find them so soon. He told me to te~ a high official or so~ebod~ \-'lith governmental authorit_w in Vlashingtax1 that 'they;' wer.e from another p~anet. aorl that if there were ~ more wars here 'they' woUld have to take over. He to~d me that I couLd talL-a relative o~ the meeting. I told him that I didn't thlnk= thai; a kid like ~sell woul..d be believed if I approache:d an official.. aJnn rel.a.red the message. He do this and come to me. to1d me I had a week to make aD effort to d be. \Vat-chad ann that no harm v1o.ul..d He returneo to the airora.ft. I watched the door close; then I turned and walked back to the car. I did no.t see the aircraft take otf. I returned to this p~aoe on 'rhursda:r morning about. the same t~e. r~ia time the man told me that I had not begun to make an effort toward going to Viashingtan. I said I had to:Ld my mother-. He said I shonl d go to \Vash1J~gton and relay the message. I retnx-ned again lat.e SatnlJitaz mght wi.th a buddy; wa wai-ted arouDd for a whUe but nothing happened. Of oonrse we reaJ.1ze that this case might be considered on the fantast,io side b.ut we of the WORC do not consider it to be in the craokpo't oategor7. A short w.b.U.a after the initial. interview drove us tO> the landing site at the intersect:.ion a~ Routes 6 am 306. He showed us his path into the deso1a~ fie1d and whe~e the object al1ghted. We made diagrams, eto., of all of this. In l..ate October, UFORC .members went to the site again with equipment but without Dave. He~e is the contents ot tlls fiell report: "1. NO radioactivity fourun. an.wwhare a: check with a geiger-counter reveaLed except for baclcground count. (Ot conrse, this was some time after the aa:t1taJ ace urrence. ) 2. The largest compass deviation was ~0 degrees at a gully on \Yes'tern border o:t: tie1d. 31 No ground marks. 4.. Photographs were taken or the araa and stakes were driven into the grourorl as markers. n \Ve kegt in canstan'C touch wi.tll and he appe-at Eri vary cooperative and sincere. He was oossessed with the notion that he mu;st; get the message given him to V/ashington. On October 2~, 1955 we asked Dav~d more questions via teJLephone. Here is the text of that interview: "1. ~-P~ease dascr~be the green ~igh~ you to~d me yam saw ov~ the trees in the sky when you got out of yoUI car? (This was an attempt to tip Dava's hand if he v1as 1~;npar he to~d us betore that he saw the light whi~e the obj act was on the A-I did not sae the green l.ight in the skY" The gream light came from the ship when i't was au the 2. Q,-\Vhat color oame from the object when it vras in A--y:ellow gl.ow. 3. Q-\'lhat made you take yonr eyes oft to stop' your c~? A-I thought I saw a shooting star. of the road 4. Q,-VIhat made you waJ k baok into the A-I was ourrious, I guess. fie1d in the dark? 5. \1oulLd you sq yo\J'~' mind was ol.ear at this time? ThinkiDg back over the events, wou1d you sq now that this was a rsal experience, that yowmiud was s. Describe what happened in the f'iel.d, tha llght et.c . A-I '\Val ked near the ship,atopped:, tttl"nad and ran away. As I had jt~st staJted to run, I saw a green light come on. I turned and a door slid open. A. man came out. Q,-Deac:ribe Over 6 teet Q,-\Vas he eight. teet A-:tb nndea that. 9. \V'as he thin or tat? A~at tat, ]ike an aver~ man. 1a. Q,-Yon to~d lJS you oonJ'd not move. ~Vere you frozen? A-No, I cou.JL.d not move. I d 't ,\mow if this was from the ship: ar :from my t-ear 11. Cau]d you see the man's f'ace? ll!. You said befca"e he was wearing a helrnent and sui1;'l A-correct. ~3. Vias his voice high in _p.itch'l A-It seemed rather high, yest ~4. Did he sp.-eak cLaar engl ish 'l 1.5. How did ha get back into the ship? A-I saw h:i m tnrn and bend hia h , I do nos remember that he stepped into the craft. ~5. Was the oratt metallic? 2. Q,-What color oame from the object when it was in the s.k\Y? A-Y:ellow gl.ow. 3. Q,-What made you take your ayes ott ot the road to stop' your a~? A-I thought I saw a shooting star. 4. ~-\'lhat made you walk baok into the tieid in the d A-I was cu:t'ious, I guess. 5. Yloulld you say-ronr mind was ol.ear at this time? Thinking back over the events, woul.d you sa;r now that this was a real experieno e, that yow m:l nd wa e. Describe what happened in the field, tha light at. A-I walked near the ship,atoppet:t, turned and ran away'. As I had j1ut sta1ted to run, I saw a gre, light come on. J: turned and a door slld open. A. man came out. 7 . Q,-Deacri.be the man. Ower 6 teet tal.l.? a. ~-Was be eight teet tall? A-No undm that. 9. \Vas he thin or tat? A~ot tat, ljke an average man. 10. ~-Ytill tol-d 1s you conJ'd not move. ~'lere you frozen A-No, J: coul.d not mova. I 't know it' this was from the ship ar from my t'aar. 11. Cau]d you see the .man's face? 12. You said befayse he was lv:earing a helrnent A-Correct. ~3. Was his voice high in p.itoh? A-It seemed rather high, yesJ ~4. Did he sp.'8ak ol.ear errgl ish? 15. BOw did he gat back into the shi~? A-I se.w him turn and bend his head, I do no~ remember that he stepped into the cratt. ~6. Was the cratt metallic? ~7. \Vhere was the green light? A-Around the rim of the sbio 18. You think some kind ot exhaust \Vas seen by you coming from bel aw the ship:? 19. Using common sense, do you think this 'Nas a drea del.usicm, o::c PS7Chol.ogical. thing? 20. I:t you were in co.uJt, on a witness stand, under qUlestion1ng, do you think you woulid stick to ycru ll. vVou.ld you be willing to tell this to a psy~iatx if so, do you think you could tel1 him this as y haYe to~d us? 22. Didcyou have dinn.er that night? Any chance you possibly dizzy had some. drinks, or were or sick tram. anything? 24 . ~ can you say yosm mincl anrl th1nldDg were ol as they are now or any other time'/ On October 24th ot 1955, a Mr. Desmond Leslie, engl j sh 'vriter and investigatoe or "fi3'1Dg 3atlce:rs", was to be in Cl.evel.m,d tar a ~ectnre. the tact that. a C1evel.ander ( ) had had an: unusual e:xperien=e got back to :Mr. T,as promo'So am was asked to appear on the program. j,n:f me ot this and I recommended that he not appear for al J. :lt wot aocom:gllsh, :r said, a ~ot o~ publlc:ity. I ~e:rt after asst1rred me he would not atteml. 'l'his, I thought, ?loul.d be a good test ot s intentions anrl veracit7. I attended the :Latter part. o:f the Desmand Le:slle ~ectnt e sure enough he made an announcement abourt "a Cl.avelander who l: had an amazing experience recently". Leslie then aske~ tc come onto the stage and tell his story. did nat appear oj course because he wasn t 'there-pro.ving to us that he vras sincE in his intentions. This was a typical demonstration or ,Nillinguess to cooperate '"lith us. During the middle part ot November we invitad to one of our counsel. meetings. At this meeting we discussed pre, taped interviews and then each member cross examined The he was asked to leave and we debated for about forty minutes. Otn conc~usion was that was factual. in tha telling of his amazing experience and that we shouLd try to h~ this, hawever, we agreed t.o prob.e for pieces or evidence that \Vou:ld se~ve as supporting material to. experience. '.rhis probe v1as concentrated: 1n the area or the landiiZlg site ancl it was during this investigation tha~ Case Filas Number One and 'rwo came to light 'l'o this day, the t ts ot these fi~es, 1\1r. and do not know each other even It is cono~usive to note that both 1nc1dents(oase t110 and three happen:ed withtn a thaa.-t distanoe of each other. c~aims tha-t t4e ".man" told hi.Dt: that they had landed there to be discovered but didn't expect anyone to find them so soon" The She~ n incident proves that. "the:w", whoever they- are. had been arOW1d before. still feels that it is his obliga go to \"'ashington as directed. Vie wrota the Pres ident ot the United States and we were referred to you at Wright Field. \'Ia intend to take. this matter lashington in the near future. AlR TECiiliiC.c-..L Th"T1-;;LLIG]J\:CS CE.:r~:::rt ~,RIGh.'T-.PATJ'B~.SO~! AI!1 !fv~CE B;.s.s, O~iiO PiiOJECT i~lJ.DE~ (U) Travel to Cleveland, Ohio Area Re u?O Case Inv~sti~a~ions .A. PURPOSE