Hebgenlake Montana — August 1949

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T\.to civilians ':\.ro discs L'1v es:0if"O to:-::; -i..J~vfwle UNCLASSlflED LJNCLASSlf'\60 15. No evidences of outward propulsion were evidenced by objects. 16. Object definitely bad no fins, stabilizers or elevators. 17. Objects had no slots or duct openings. 18. Objects had a speed of about 1500 miles per hour. Informant not able to accurately ec;timate this speed. Speed rating was obtained by finding the time the objects took to pass between knotm 19. Objects according to informant, sounded like a siren and the sound was continuous. 20. Six ot the objects faded from view according to informant. Two or the objects crashed in the surrounding area. The possibility ot fragments or other physical eviience was taken into consideration and a thre~ day search was instituted, grappling hooks beL~g employed for the object that was supposed to have cra~hed into the water. RELATIVE TO THE OBSERVlR ~lest Yellowstone, Montana Hebgen Lake Lodge, ,;est Yellowstone, Montana a. is ed by Mr. , ot and has been employed a s a tor tely two months as or 9 August 19L.9. ~. duties entail that he also be in charge of the boat landing and dock area. Observer's hobbies are his business, nw~ely, huntin3 and fishing. Observer has had limited experience, little formal education and is virtually without qualification as pertains to aeronautica l The observer should be a good judge as to the detennination of color, size and speed of objects, however, after conversing with observer for a period of three days, it was felt that he is extremely prone to exaggerate, particularly as to the speed and number or things. The employees of the Lodge seemed to agree that lfr. was a veey reliable individual, regardine him as a sort of "jewel" 1n the roueh. The,y believed that because or his experience as a guide that he would be exceptionally well qualified to judge speed, color, size, and to be possessed of a quick and discerning eye. They stated that he knew nothing or "~ing discs", n ever having read about them at all. (This statement was open to doubt, inasmuch l1S an article about "flying discs" was in the boathouse where in!'ormant worked). It was agreed by all that the would be able to take us directly to the objects. This he failed to do in almost three days of searching. A check with ty 3h iff :.est Yellowstone, indicated that Nr. had an excellent reputation, was considered an and had a fair reputation for being truthful. UNCLASStF1EO Mr. , employer or Mr. stated that he would un:tualifiedly believe aJ\Ythi thJ.tet he latter stated as being the truth. J.:Ir. ~and Mr. have both knownWr. for a period of at least f ive 8. Informant states that his attention was brought to the object by the sound thereof; t ha t it had a high, continuous sound analogous to a siren. 9. There were no other witnesses obtainable other than the observer. The observer reported that there had bae n a ~amper in the area 11fho observed the same inc i :ien t at t he same aad t.ime and pla.ce. He had not obtained the camper's name a nd the camper had sinc e ~oved on. No information could be obtained from the records of the r e l a t i ve to the name of the camoer. The ~est YellmYstoo~ area has a great number o! similar touris~c; during this time of the y ear. 1. West Yellowstone Airport does not have a teletype recording device. .leather ;1as reported on 9 Aucust a s being (a) visibllit.y-unlim1 ted; (b) ceilin~ unlimited; (c) scattered clouds 1/10 at about 12, 000 fee t ; (altitude of airport is 6200 fe~t). Surface wind 70/03 1.:PH. No prec i p itation on that date was evidenced. Temperature at 0930 hours was 62 degrees F. 2. Winda Aloft report, Butte, Montana, taken at 0800 A. M. 9 August 1949, indicate that winds were extremely moderate, tram an easterly and southeas+~rly direction, veerine about to southwesterly at about 40 knots at extreme al t.i tude. ). All night schedules were checked. No military , cormnercial or private aircraft were flyine in the i.est Yellowstone or Hebgen Lake area at tbe time or reported sightings. u. Only testing devices released in Montana are pilot balloons , one each beine released daily at 0800 A. M. by Gore Field, Great Falls, Montana, and Butte J.iunicipal Airport. Butte, Uontana. UNCLASSlflED S. Area could not be found where object all egedJ3 contacted 6. Negative. 8. Signed statanent not possible to secure; only eyewitness declinAd to submit statement. 9. Negative 10. No radio anterma were to be observed UNClASSIFlEQ Project "~udDt" A.~'n;a :Jr. J. . t .. orrill UNCLASSIFlEO l. It is requc t;., u ' .. l. your office initiate tlll UIVOati( tion o f the ~LtU:..; or ar. un1dent1f1od pheuo,.;)~ or~ .~ roportocl 1:1)' aetu.or.ud ..;CJ.JY 01' 1m.:om1ng oosJaJ;:J 2. Aa an aid to t he 1t v..,ati ~at in~ of1'1oar in recoru1.n,~ the <.l4JsiruJ U..tu., oop1ea ot our ~idu t o ~,vo~ ~. ut.vr. ~u alao incloa~u. 1. Cy Inoomin,; Cl"a .. ~3ettre. ~11/l.l-1 2. Ouicle to In-.eat1.:u.t1o:: (2) _.t Color-'ll l..u~' ,..ctin::; Cl .!.vi' . ..r.Aly3i& -i:iaic.l Intell1r;er.oe epe.r t.oont UNCLASSIFlEO CLASSIFIED MESSAGE UNCLJ\55\flEO liU AUC 49 t\XXSXXIIX D I~7.CTI0:1 Fii:n~: ALOFT r"nu"L "7osot:>tc C:KY CO~!D I Tlo~.;s SOU1\D OF OBJfCT fl.S r:z I!lG D~TAILE~ ~!?0~T DESir.ED, UNClASSIFlED copy will be tofeguarded with the qreotest care for destruction in o ccordo,.ce w ith t /)1 MCAO Fom No. 22 CLASSIFIED MESSAGE CLASSIFIED MESSAGE until e ctlon Is completecl, ot which time it will tto n IV. Hq. Oftice Instruction No. 1 1 1 . lJNCLAS~IF1ED H!A!)q"ART~RS 2D A mo!trD DIVISIO!I CflT'!p Hood, Tcx~9 stJJU'roTt Aerial Phenomena TO 1 Commanding General Fourth Ar~n~ Fort Sam llou!lton, Texae ATr.h .~c ot s, G-2 1. Enclosed is a consolidated report ot uni dent1t'1eci serial ohjeets obser'led ~y me .. ~f),..! ot' the Field Foree between the hours of :.>roo -11 Augu3t aDd 0100 12 AUgO'Ust. 2.. WhUe the re~crts obtRined t'rom intcrvievling wriou:; .:tombers ol the Field Force, .a-~ 1111 differed in sooe detailo, there was e~aral ogreet4ent OD the tollowingt a. !'he unusual lights were 1n1 tial.~ obset tad in the north anu .a98d in a southernly direction. b. Color ot objects &nd tr&Ua was white. o. DistMce t1:om observer to light na unest1mable d. Period or observntion trom ) to 5 seconds. e. 3tr8ieht 1eYel fiight ot object. t llod.Dg light wnt out in a traction ~ a eeooDd. 3. It is the cons1dorad opinion ot the interviewer that the six (6) report ot 10 August and the attached report ot 11 August can be ax~lainnd ae the n-ttturaJ. phenomena ot a shower nt meteors from the vicinity of the .tar Pereeids which reaohee it IIIRXilllWI display at thi time 4. Theae reports ot natural phenoMena by anny personnel d1o asaume tb4r.1 aee unident11'ied aerial objects. besrs out the necessity, as previou~ly recoended, for asaignment ot qualUied technical personnel with eial equipment to caxry 0\d the lliaaioD ot observing and reoording un1 denti!ied aerial phenomena. FOR !HE 1C ~ S UNCLASSIFIE[ Incident No. _ 2. Exact time of observntion (local) 2QlO 2N5 2052 2105 rolO ).: Placo of Observation: (Map Coorc!inatos) C.p Hood ~ 1a50,000 4. Position of observer (air, car, bldg, location of- give details): 5. What attracted attention to object: . ~bright light ill 8)q 6. Number of objects and sketch of for~ation or grouping: One ~ each time 1.nd1oatect 1D I'J. 7. Apparent sizo (compare t o known object, i.e., s , moon, thumb or fist at arms length): 8. Color of object: 9. Shapo (gi vo graphic description -compare Rith kn::>\:n objoct); n ltn a ~ tlaN 10. Altitude (Ancl o of ol ovntion above horizon -0 degrees at horizon, 90 dogreos ovorhoc.d) : ra-e. 45 to 60 clepeo8 ll. Direction from obs9rvor (Angl o cloclcr;ise from North): 12. Distance fron observer (Distcnce to t o\.n, bldg, etc., oror vhich object appeer cd to bo): 1). Diroction of illgh". of ohjcct (s) z C.DOrallr :"1~ tat fJoLtth 14. Timo of sight: 15. Speed ( tir'lo Incl la.ter t to cover ,;;i von :.mQll.nr di:Jtnncc): 1UNCLASSI Fl EL 16. Sound and odor: 17. Trail (color, length, nidth, porsistonco , ate.) Loa~ wni te traU tapor!JW llk a Neb,, .-poraiater.~ ~'lrw;t;cll>>U~ 18. Luninosity (visible by reflection, incandescence, other -degree or brilliance)a 19. Projections (fins, uings, rods, antennae, cnnopies, otc.): 20. MQnouvcrs (turns, climbs, dives, etc. -sketch of flight path): flo ~-oe oa. tlin .. ,. g t"u.L-4.1 a lLtNl t:. l\ 21. Manner of disa~po~r~ncea 22. Effect on clouds: 23. Additiotml inforcction concerning object: See ~ver l6,,r 24. Weather conditions and light at tine of sightinR: wi'H W"iJ;A" ~-'Ga I~me Bnd address of obsorvora Clffioera nd ~ o! t,. !l.W.<l foroe Occupation and hobbies: Comments of Intorrog~tor rolc.tivo to intelligence and charcctor of (Chock no:.g~bors, police depc;., FBI records, employer, etc.): Did obsorvor wear gl~ssos, os?Qcially polariod glcsses at time of sighting, or nas object viewed through cano::>.f, ilindou, or other transpnront mctcriul? Pace ) ll 4 ot i.hla n~ ~ asr.l.f eahle to th_. lno1deDt nq, ~d l'.rhd ~v UNITED STATES AIR F O RCE THE INSPECT O R GEN ERAL Of'f'ICE Of' SPECIAL I NVESTIGATION S REPORT OF INVESTIGATION 7 Soptember 1949 REPORT MAD[ IY !.5LVIN J~. tl!;..P TITU REPOitT MAO[ AT CHAitACT[It UNKNO~',"l~ ( Arrial Phenomena ) SP ;-ciAL IP~lJl~I ltl'ERENC PCirt1and At'3 orne o' OltiGIN Jl'lrt1and ,u 3 ~port ot l ir.LVIN E. Ni~EF, dated 10 AUtrU8t 1949 Soports or additional sirhtine s have bae!'l r eceived from Cv:ap I !cod, Texas, a nd t<'.1l1een Base, 'texas. Tha provision~ of' .\:CSI Lot;~ No. 85 coulC not b9 complied with in Ti.e'Jf o f t he fact, tr.at t~e information contained herein wa s r eceivoo from 5ar.d1a !l1sc , :iew l!exico, rather than diroctly' from t~e obaarver3 OIST1UIUTIOII ATTM1 !JCIAXO..J (Action copies ) 2 Dir ot Int~lligence 1 FBI, El Paeo CO rJ.rtl3nd liB Corum rdin~ General iJ.r !J.ateriel Canrrand \tri~ht-Patterson Ai' Baae Dayton, Otdo A'rt'H I I!CI.UG-3 Lt Col, U3AF Dfltrkt Commftft4tr. UNCLA55\f1EO e . I . --f Nlnl WPICI tJNC(.; .. SSifl\:;0 OUID.E TO DlV ~riG.i.TIOH UNID~"NTif'ICD A .r.IAL OBJ ECTS 1. Date or obeer.ation 10 Aue 19~ Date ot interview l2 Aug 1)4) 2 Exact time ot obaeM"ation 0010 hours CST 3. Place or obs.-ntions 654.4 -913.6 (~p coordination) 4. Pnsi tion ot observer 1 On pl t.rol in a jeep. S. :,~at attracted attention to obje ct: ~:oticed l.ri;-ht li . .,.h t ~ovinr. 6. Nwr.ber or ob j ectss One. 6 Coler s ro.ue. 9. hpea O.al with no evidence of tail. lOe Altitudes 30 degree angle headed down. 11. uireetion from observer I 180 deez"08Se 12 Distance trom observer 1 1 mile 13. Direction or nights ~at to v.eat, losing altitude. 14. Time in ai,;ht 1 J to 4 aeconda 15. Speeds 16. So'nld and oc!cr a lloae. 17. TraUs Shu't trail with no colcr or paraistene,r. 18. binositya Exeeptiana~ brieht blue tor aise ot objoct. 19e Projectional none. 20.r 11aneuveras Stra